[RobZL1]

Well, I guess you can go in as deep as you want to hide it from potential thieves. You don't have to remove anything if you don't want to, but it will be easier to find/remove unless you get creative

[LuckZL1]

Originally Posted by roostere4

You can definitely get IGLA and Compustar installed together.
Have had an IGLA installed for awhile and been debating on getting a Compustar installed too

Keep going back and forth on the Compustar install. Would love to have an alarm and notification. Especially when out and about, or on a trip, but not really so much ar home.

Not a daily driver, so between not sure if it really adds value at home, the security of IGLA, the possible battery issues for leaving the car sitting for days or even a week or two, and the duplication of factory options I'm torn on whether to pull the trigger on an install.

Do you have Compustar installed already? What's your experience like with it?

I have both the IGLA and Compustar T13 installed and the biggest thing for either one of these is choose a good installer. For my Compustar, they didn’t install the siren, so my alarm goes off but the car stays silent. For my IGLA they didn’t solder correctly so the IGLA failed. Good news is that you know it failed when your car starts up without entering in your code. Truly a weird feeling to have lol.

Overall though I love them both but the IGLA will make things hard for you if you modify your car in which the car needs to relearn things electronically like the tire pressure sensors when getting new wheels.

[Standard]

Originally Posted by LuckZL1

Overall though I love them both but the IGLA will make things hard for you if you modify your car in which the car needs to relearn things electronically like the tire pressure sensors when getting new wheels.

Do you have a link to something that explains this, or can you here for posterity? Both in the general and the specific case - by 'make things hard' what does it do and how do you get around it to make it work? (I'm guessing you mean the relearning for brand new tire sensors via the 'let air out of the tire' thing?)

[Curr]

Originally Posted by LuckZL1

Overall though I love them both but the IGLA will make things hard for you if you modify your car in which the car needs to relearn things electronically like the tire pressure sensors when getting new wheels.

Hard? How so... just put it in Service Mode, which takes... 5 seconds?

[IMCWORTH]

Today I went to see my local Igla installer. The only one in the SF baya area. he said $1450 installed but not including the hi jack feature which is extra. That feature is. if you leave your car door open with the engine running it will die within 15 seconds unless you enter your code. I like the sound of that however I do not like the sound of splicing about 5 different wires to install the Igla system. Igla also doesn't have a tilt and impact feature available.
I do have some security features installed which seems to work great for now.
But Does anyone else have a problem with wires being cut and sliced?

[LuckZL1]

Originally Posted by Standard

Do you have a link to something that explains this, or can you here for posterity? Both in the general and the specific case - by 'make things hard' what does it do and how do you get around it to make it work? (I'm guessing you mean the relearning for brand new tire sensors via the 'let air out of the tire' thing?)

I don't have a link, just personal experience. So my specific problem has been tire pressure sensors, I have gone through 3 sets since getting the IGLA and Compustar installed. I ruled out the Compustar because when my IGLA failed, the problem went away.

What happened was I got the wheels installed in January of this year and the IGLA in February. After the IGLA was installed, the installer reset everything on my dash, including the oil percentage (not sure if that was necessary). So basically when I got the car back it had to relearn everything and unbeknownst me at the time, the OBD2 port was blocked and the sensors would not relearn.

So I take it back to the tire installer for new sensors, and put it in service mode at that time. Everything goes great, the sensors relearn properly, then only 1 of the sensors unlearn. This happens to me again until my IGLA failed.

After they re-installed the IGLA I haven't had any issues except I no longer have a service mode lol.

[LuckZL1]

Originally Posted by Curr

Hard? How so... just put it in Service Mode, which takes... 5 seconds?

Service mode is mainly for when the car turns off, it will still turn on without putting in the code until it gets up to a certain MPH then it reactivates for the next time the car cuts off. My issue wouldn't be fixed with service mode as the Tire Pressure sensors would literally unlearn while I was driving. Now that I think about it, I have still had times when a pressure sensor would go offline, then re-learn while I was driving. The only reason I know it is the IGLA messing with them is because once it failed, I didn't have the issue at all. Maybe I am an isolated issue.

Now that it was re-installed, I don't have a service mode so if I want work done I just change my code to a temp code each time. Sucks but still love it.

[LuckZL1]

Originally Posted by IMCWORTH

Today I went to see my local Igla installer. The only one in the SF baya area. he said $1450 installed but not including the hi jack feature which is extra. That feature is. if you leave your car door open with the engine running it will die within 15 seconds unless you enter your code. I like the sound of that however I do not like the sound of splicing about 5 different wires to install the Igla system. Igla also doesn't have a tilt and impact feature available.
I do have some security features installed which seems to work great for now.
But Does anyone else have a problem with wires being cut and sliced?

That sounds about $200 more than what I paid in LA. If they are charging $200 more, I would hope you don't have the same problems I have.

While splicing sounds bad, if the IGLA fails, the way you know it fails is because your car starts up without putting in the code. Nothing else should be wrong so you shouldn't be too worried. It really does depend on if YOU feel it is worth it. I definitely have more peace of mind when I drive my car now, minus towing I am not really worried about anything.

[Standard]

Originally Posted by LuckZL1

Now that it was re-installed, I don't have a service mode so if I want work done I just change my code to a temp code each time. Sucks but still love it.

Heh - this is a sort of testimonial to the system, though one the company wouldn't like sharing. "It sorta messed up my car; but the theft is so prevalent and the security so unbreakable that I love it anyway".

I'm thinking of pulling the trigger, hoping for the best on the install.

[Curr]

Originally Posted by IMCWORTH

Today I went to see my local Igla installer. The only one in the SF baya area. he said $1450 installed but not including the hi jack feature which is extra. That feature is. if you leave your car door open with the engine running it will die within 15 seconds unless you enter your code. I like the sound of that however I do not like the sound of splicing about 5 different wires to install the Igla system. Igla also doesn't have a tilt and impact feature available.
I do have some security features installed which seems to work great for now.
But Does anyone else have a problem with wires being cut and sliced?

Igla isn't an alarm. It's an immobilizer, that's it. It has been reported that without the PIN entered, it will also garble / interrupt CAN bus comms, which may prevent keys being programmed, but I can't find confirmation of this besides a few "my installed told me", including mine.

As I was told, no wires are cut, just tapped. Big difference. If an Igla fails, your car will just start as if you didn't have an Igla in it, that's all.

[Standard]

Originally Posted by Curr

Igla isn't an alarm. It's an immobilizer, that's it. It has been reported that without the PIN entered, it will also garble / interrupt CAN bus comms, which may prevent keys being programmed, but I can't find confirmation of this besides a few "my installed told me", including mine.

As I was told, no wires are cut, just tapped. Big difference. If an Igla fails, your car will just start as if you didn't have an Igla in it, that's all.

The wider discussion and searching for youtube threads imply there are different capabilities depending on who installed it - however, with how IGLA works, is it not true that even if IGLA allowed a key to be cloned/programmed/added (presuming you meant the GM key), that key would be the same as the legit owner's key and still not start the car without the passcode. . . ?

[Curr]

Originally Posted by Standard

The wider discussion and searching for youtube threads imply there are different capabilities depending on who installed it - however, with how IGLA works, is it not true that even if IGLA allowed a key to be cloned/programmed/added (presuming you meant the GM key), that key would be the same as the legit owner's key and still not start the car without the passcode. . . ?

When I had mine installed (early Spring this year) there was one "extra feature" that the "main" Igla guy in the US, who is the distributor for Author Alarms, had figured out how to add / program in. That was the CarJack feature, but he charges a LOT of money to teach your local installer how to do it. "Proprietary information" etc

So most of the local installers don't bother cause why waste nearly 5 figures on something they might do 10 installs a year on and probably will never see that returned.

If Igla allows a key to be programmed, it'll be exactly the same as all the other keys programmed, but you still need to enter the PIN every time you want to start the car.

To my knowledge, the only things that will bypass the PIN requirement to start are:
Service Mode
The Igla supplied FOB
Igla fails / removed from the vehicle

[LuckZL1]

Originally Posted by Standard

Heh - this is a sort of testimonial to the system, though one the company wouldn't like sharing. "It sorta messed up my car; but the theft is so prevalent and the security so unbreakable that I love it anyway".

I'm thinking of pulling the trigger, hoping for the best on the install.

Haha true, well my car isn't messed up just the functionality of the IGLA. I am sure I can take it back to the installer and they wouldn't mind fixing it like I did when it failed. I just don't want to go through the hassle.

It definitely is a great system, but just make sure your installer is good (mainly warranty work, customer service, honesty, etc.) Hopefully the installer has installed a bunch of them and have reviews about them.

[The Maverick]

I am still waiting on the "Protected by IGLA" warning-stickers system as something I might want to add to my non-IGLA multi-layered security enhancements.