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Old 06-23-2024, 01:12 AM   #1
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HP limit on 93, stock blower and stock high side

Car was made to roll race/street drive

Here’s the setup:
Kong Stage X Ported LT4 Blower and rebuild
103 MM TB
2 Inch Kooks Headers Catless
Roto Fab Big Gulp
Griptech 2.3 Upper Pulley, Stock Lower
Stage 1 FI interchiller
DSX Aux Pump
OEM heads ported
Massive cam (wasn’t given a stage, custom grind)
Circle D TQ Converter
Thompson engines LT1 416 Short Block rated for 1200 Crank HP

What kind of WHP numbers should I be seeing with this setup max on 93. Obviously don’t want to max out the fuel system because I hate living on the edge with cars but I’m sure that aux pump will let it get turned up a little more for 93. Will do port injection later on from toohighpsi to run full e85 on stock high side bit sticking with 93 to enjoy it for a few months and still be fast.
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Old 06-23-2024, 06:52 AM   #2
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I would suggest a 38% cam lobe to help the high side.
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Old 06-23-2024, 08:48 AM   #3
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Old 06-23-2024, 05:55 PM   #4
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I would suggest a 38% cam lobe to help the high side.
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What does this lobe % look like to you?
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Old 06-23-2024, 05:56 PM   #5
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I actually created that thread as well lol. I wasn’t able to find any body with same or similar build running just 93 on stock high side to give me accurate HP numbers but I did see you said close to 800. I really do want to get into the low 8’s but of course want to be safe, no detonation or knocking. What number do you think I would get with this build?
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Old 06-24-2024, 08:12 AM   #6
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800 whp on 93 is doable with stock fuel system and a bigger fuel lobe but you will be close to both the fuel system and octane limits of 93. The tune will have to be conservative on timing in relation to air temps. A little methanol injection used for cooling and octane only would be a good solution if you don't want to mess with E85 or race fuels.
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Old 06-24-2024, 01:17 PM   #7
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800 whp on 93 is doable with stock fuel system and a bigger fuel lobe but you will be close to both the fuel system and octane limits of 93. The tune will have to be conservative on timing in relation to air temps. A little methanol injection used for cooling and octane only would be a good solution if you don't want to mess with E85 or race fuels.
Got ya, I also don’t really want to do meth because my mechanic doesn’t like it cause he’s seen a lot of pump failures happen and if you forget it’s dry and turn it on your done for. I prefer e85 but I don’t want to do it right now. If I’m being honest I think I’ll get into the mid to high 7’s to not limit the fuel system which to be honest I’m very happy with. I just want my car to run solid, drive good, and also sound and be fast which all of this does. Do you think that if I roll race it on 93 and I guess in a sense “beat on it” when I’m rolling that I’m going to run into detonation. I only really drive my cars fast and do pulls when I’m roll racing and other than that I drive like a grandma lol. And I only really roll 3 or 4 times in a month due to it being summer but once it’s winter I won’t be out at all and just street driving normally. Obviously when I roll I don’t do back to back runs, I do one run at whatever speed to whatever speed, then go into right lane and just cruise for maybe 3 or 4 minutes to get the temps down and let that interchiller kick in so I don’t have any timing being removed. Usually I mostly just do 2 to 3 runs on the day I got out and then that’s it. Sorry I’m talking so much about how I roll race and drive my car lol, I’m just saying this so you can explain me if 93 is going to cause me issues if I’m doing these sorts of activities.
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