[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by dpevans

When you pull the trigger make sure you heat wrap them, starter overheating is a common issue.

Also, if your headers are not coated, then get heat resistant boots for your plug wires.

[KingLT1]

Originally Posted by Joshinator99

No way. A gain of 30 WHP with a drivetrain loss of 15% means you gained 35 crank HP. A gain of 25 WHP with that same drivetrain loss is 29 crank HP.

Originally Posted by Joshinator99

E85 is a better and more worthwhile mod IMO.

Agreed

[Eric10905]

Originally Posted by Joshinator99

E85 is a better and more worthwhile mod IMO.

Second this. ^^^

I might start a thread to ask who regrets doing headers. I regret them.
But, if you do them, take the extra time and $ and ceramic coat them. Esp if you ever plan to track.

[beowulf556]

Originally Posted by Eric10905

Second this. ^^^

I might start a thread to ask who regrets doing headers. I regret them.
But, if you do them, take the extra time and $ and ceramic coat them. Esp if you ever plan to track.

What do you regret about them? Thinking of doing them on mine.

[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by Eric10905

Second this. ^^^

I might start a thread to ask who regrets doing headers. I regret them.
But, if you do them, take the extra time and $ and ceramic coat them. Esp if you ever plan to track.

Mine are not coated, I don't track but I do drag strip. no complaints.

[Eric10905]

Originally Posted by beowulf556

What do you regret about them? Thinking of doing them on mine.

It's a matter of sound level preference and smell I suppose.

And it's not cheap. I had them ceramic coated. And I'm too old to install them while on jack stands in the garage so paid to have them installed.

Some folks want their car louder, and that is fine - to each their own. Or don't care about the smell difference. I'm just not one of them. If I was to do this over, I probably wouldn't change the stock exhaust. Given what it all cost.
YMMV

[Eric10905]

Originally Posted by FlukeSS

Mine are not coated, I don't track but I do drag strip. no complaints.

Understood - depends on use I think. During 20-30 minute track sessions, you can generate a lot of heat under hood. Heat is an enemy, so I went with the coating. Seems to help, but have no measurements or data myself. Just a "belt and suspenders" approach for me....

[beowulf556]

Originally Posted by Eric10905

It's a matter of sound level preference and smell I suppose.

And it's not cheap. I had them ceramic coated. And I'm too old to install them while on jack stands in the garage so paid to have them installed.

Some folks want their car louder, and that is fine - to each their own. Or don't care about the smell difference. I'm just not one of them. If I was to do this over, I probably wouldn't change the stock exhaust. Given what it all cost.
YMMV

Mind if I ask what you paid for the install?

[Summit20171SS]

Since the headers put out a lot of extreme heat underneath the hood, is there a particular starter that can withstand the heat better than the stock ones?

[Summit20171SS]

Originally Posted by Joshinator99

No way. A gain of 30 WHP with a drivetrain loss of 15% means you gained 35 crank HP. A gain of 25 WHP with that same drivetrain loss is 29 crank HP.

Ok I see, so that would be roughly about 490ish HP at the crank up from the stock 455hp, assuming its just headers, CAI, and tune.

[Dynamical]

Originally Posted by Summit20171SS

Since the headers put out a lot of extreme heat underneath the hood, is there a particular starter that can withstand the heat better than the stock ones?

I was curious myself if powermaster made one but they don't. I do see that Phastek has heat shields that can wrap the starter though.

[Summit20171SS]

Originally Posted by Dynamical

I was curious myself if powermaster made one but they don't. I do see that Phastek has heat shields that can wrap the starter though.

That's good to know, ill have to keep that in mind when im ready to get them, thank you !

[L78toLT1]

Originally Posted by Summit20171SS

Since the headers put out a lot of extreme heat underneath the hood, is there a particular starter that can withstand the heat better than the stock ones?

If you ceramic coat your headers, you shouldn't have any starter issues. I installed all of the mods in my signature around 25k miles ago. The only heat related issue I have experienced is one melted MSD plug wire. I have around 20 full-day track sessions with these mods

[Joshinator99]

Originally Posted by L78toLT1

If you ceramic coat your headers, you shouldn't have any starter issues. I installed all of the mods in my signature around 25k miles ago. The only heat related issue I have experienced is one melted MSD plug wire. I have around 20 full-day track sessions with these mods

Agree 100%. I’ll never run headers that are not ceramic coated. Been 4 years here with coated headers and no starter issues. Granted, I never drive the car. But still.