[DevilsReject97]

Originally Posted by taylorforschool@gmail.com

You can get a used low miles for much cheaper all I’m saying. But you might be able to get out the door for 85 or so on a new 2023 maybe 24 non collectible if you search hard and are willing to travel or transport

I was also able to get a 5 year extended on top of my CPO so I don’t expire until 2028 for what that’s worth

I got my 23 for $74k... so it's still very doable to get them at a decent price...

I honestly wouldn't waste any money on the CE, unless you have it to spend/blow...

2023 Black A10 ZL1 - 3 miles, roughly $73k
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/new/se...2/NONE/DEFAULT

It's in Texas...

There's others like it elsewhere too...

[Mark0Maro]

Originally Posted by DevilsReject97

Actually, it's not silly at all.. They are legitimately two different types of vehicles, and it's not even close. Can a Hellcat or a Redeye do similar things to a ZL1? Sure... but not in the same capacity. Just like the ZL1 is never going to be able to haul as much/have as much space inside the vehicle either...

Hellcats lack traction, even at a 305/315 tire, and a lot of it has to do with how their suspension is setup. HCs are great cars for what they do, but if you want something more, I can understand the desire to change. Used HCs are going for big money right now, so you could get out of it fairly easily.

Only thing I would recommend on the ZL1 is get yourself a good set of DD tires as the Cup3s wear quickly on daily street life...

My thoughts exactly. I can cruise down the road at 45 mph on the hot, humid summer roads and my WB HC will spin the tires when I go WOT with the automatic transmission. On 315 tires. And I have the regular 717 hp motor in mine. It’s a blast no doubt. Not safe though.

[DevilsReject97]

Originally Posted by Mark0Maro

My thoughts exactly. I can cruise down the road at 45 mph on the hot, humid summer roads and my WB HC will spin the tires when I go WOT with the automatic transmission. On 315 tires. And I have the regular 717 hp motor in mine. It’s a blast no doubt. Not safe though.

Truthfully, you could have that happen in any high horsepower car without proper suspension work. That said, it's literally the bane/curse of the Hellcat cars to lack traction....Seen a lot of people going to 335-345 tires and weird offsets to try and fix traction issues on the HC.

The ZL1 is not that kind of car....

[Mark0Maro]

Originally Posted by DevilsReject97

Truthfully, you could have that happen in any high horsepower car without proper suspension work. That said, it's literally the bane/curse of the Hellcat cars to lack traction....Seen a lot of people going to 335-345 tires and weird offsets to try and fix traction issues on the HC.

The ZL1 is not that kind of car....

Yes, you’re right.

The Hellcats come stock with 20 inch wheels and tires. The Wide Body Challengers have 20x11 wheels and 315 tires.


Anyways some guys downgrade to 18 or 17 inch wheels and tires. Weld wheels makes good wheels. There’s good wheels and tires setups mentioned on the Hellcat forums.

Obviously 20 inch street drag radials are more expensive than the 18 inch ones. Nitto and Toyo make good street tires.

[Mark0Maro]

Bottom line. The Hellcats are muscle cars and the ZL1 Camaros are sports cars.

[Mark0Maro]

Originally Posted by DevilsReject97

Honestly, I'd look for a 2023 instead of a 2024, and you won't really regret it in terms of overall performance.

I forgot to ask, what’s the difference between the ‘23 and ‘24?

[DevilsReject97]

Originally Posted by Mark0Maro

I forgot to ask, what’s the difference between the ‘23 and ‘24?

Nothing...

Aside from a few cosmetic items from the 2018 to 2019 models and adding the 10 spd auto to the ZL1 1LE, the ZL1 cars have pretty much remained unchanged. Honestly, you won't miss anything on getting a 23, and with all the strike/UAW issues, I'd be more concerned about a 24 than I would be a 23..

Oh, and the 24 models are higher priced too..

[Mark0Maro]

Originally Posted by DevilsReject97

Nothing...

Aside from a few cosmetic items from the 2018 to 2019 models and adding the 10 spd auto to the ZL1 1LE, the ZL1 cars have pretty much remained unchanged. Honestly, you won't miss anything on getting a 23, and with all the strike/UAW issues, I'd be more concerned about a 24 than I would be a 23..

Oh, and the 24 models are higher priced too..

Thanks again and good point about the UAW strike issues.

[TTown918]

Originally Posted by taylorforschool@gmail.com

I was also able to get a 5 year extended on top of my CPO so I don’t expire until 2028 for what that’s worth

Is that a GM extended powertrain warrany or something? Cost?

[SwL_Wildcat]

Originally Posted by Mark0Maro

I forgot to ask, what’s the difference between the ‘23 and ‘24?

About $10,000

[LT4Greg]

Mark, my advice for you is to not wait too long to find a ZL1 new or used because once Chevy stops production which is only a month or so from now, the prices for new or used will probably go up and stay consistently higher due to people looking to buy them. Just my opinion and advice to you! Good luck.��

[Vivid24]

I paid $78k (+tax) for my 2024

[taylorforschool@gmail.com]

Originally Posted by TTown918

Is that a GM extended powertrain warrany or something? Cost?

It was what they called the Silver plan at the time. Full coverage short of fluids consumables ETC for 6 years 100k miles for just at $2k

I want to say it also didn’t cover electronics or NAV

[Vigilante375]

Originally Posted by Mark0Maro

I forgot to ask, what’s the difference between the ‘23 and ‘24?

Originally Posted by SwL_Wildcat

About $10,000

$10k? No. For the ZL1, it's a $5k price increase over the 2023 year model. The other models are half or a little less than half that.