[QBoone]

Hey, so I am currently in the market to get a new Camaro. I had a 5th gen 1LT, but that sadly has been laid to rest after I was hit head on and totaled the car. The good news is that I now can upgrade and I am now looking to get a 2019+ 2SS. What I need help with is deciding what options are worth getting. I have never experience the Magnetic Ride Control, Brembo brakes, or anything else performance wise. I plan on daily driving this vehicle and have heard the MRC is a game changer, but I don't know if I would want the full 1LE package for a daily driver.

Another thing to take into consideration is that I live in a colder weather state, where it does snow a few times a year. I plan on driving this in the snow and would hate for any upgrades to inhibit my ability to drive in those conditions. Any input is greatly appreciated!

[FarmerFran]

SS with magnaride, dual mode and a tr6060 with a set of quality AS tires and you will smile for years

[QBoone]

Originally Posted by FarmerFran

SS with magnaride, dual mode and a tr6060 with a set of quality AS tires and you will smile for years

Gotcha, so you would not recommend the full 1LE package? I am seeing a few listings in my area with the MRC and dual-mode exhaust, just not the whole package. I love the looks of the package but its so hard to find. I'm thinking I can just get the hood wrapped at a shop and get eventually get a splitter. But I completely agree with you, I could never buy this car in auto, way too much fun to drive manually. The auto 10L80 is very nice don't get me wrong, but the paddle shifters just aren't the same.

This may be a dumb question, but what am I missing out on without having the electronic LSD? I can't imagine that is a big loss, especially for a DD.

[FarmerFran]

You will miss absolutely nothing from a non 1LE car, actually you will be better off

[QBoone]

Originally Posted by FarmerFran

You will miss absolutely nothing from a non 1LE car, actually you will be better off

Sweet! Thanks for the advice, this makes my search so much easier! I can just add on some of the aesthetic features such as the hood wrap and splitter. Thanks again!!

[arpad_m]

Fran isn't wrong, but I will say that over the years I added the 1LE wheels with wider tires and the 1LE brakes to my 2SS (that came from the factory with MRC and NPP) in an attempt to try and match the increased power level. I don't have the Recaro seats, and many say those are better than the comfortable 2SS leather seats, I tried them in the ZL1 and while they indeed "grab" you better, they didn't feel that much of an improvement to be worth thousands that it costs to replace the original seats.

From this you can already see that the 1LE package is worth some consideration; if you think you'll want these options even in the medium term, you will pay close to the 1LE price premium.

With all that said, if you can't find a 1LE, it isn't the end of the world, my 2SS is awesome and was already very-very good on day 1.

[m6-lt1]

I own a 1le and unless you’re tracking it, you won’t be missing much (especially in regards to the ediff). It does drive better on backroads even when you’re just slightly pushing it ( versus my previous non 1le SS).

I do agree though that the 1le package looks awesome and if you want to spend extra just to get the 1le looks I wouldn’t blame you. It really does make it look menacing especially on the 2020+ front end. I also strongly prefer the recaros versus the non recaro seats. If you decide not to get a 1le I would definitely try to find a car with dual mode exhaust and magneride.

[QBoone]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

Fran isn't wrong, but I will say that over the years I added the 1LE wheels with wider tires and the 1LE brakes to my 2SS (that came from the factory with MRC and NPP) in an attempt to try and match the increased power level. I don't have the Recaro seats, and many say those are better than the comfortable 2SS leather seats, I tried them in the ZL1 and while they indeed "grab" you better, they didn't feel that much of an improvement to be worth thousands that it costs to replace the original seats.

From this you can already see that the 1LE package is worth some consideration; if you think you'll want these options even in the medium term, you will pay close to the 1LE price premium.

With all that said, if you can't find a 1LE, it isn't the end of the world, my 2SS is awesome and was already very-very good on day 1.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it was my understanding that the upgrades included in the 1LE package do not directly affect the power output. I categorize this as more of a handling upgrade, which will produce better times on the track of course.

And when it comes to the Recaro seats, yea they would be cool to have, but I also really enjoy the stock seats in the 2SS. They are very comfortable and I feel over time the leather won't wear down as quickly. I've also heard the Alcantara steering wheel and shift knob don't hold up as well as their leather counterparts.

Luckily, when we start to look at the wheels, a lot of the listings I have my eye on currently already have upgraded their wheels to the 20" options. Now the breaks I can't speak to at all. I feel the stock 4 piston breaks will do just fine for what I am looking for. I don't have any plans to track this car on any sort of regular basis, maybe once or twice a year, and that's on the high end. Thanks for your input!! I really appreciate yall!

[QBoone]

Originally Posted by m6-lt1

I own a 1le and unless you’re tracking it, you won’t be missing much (especially in regards to the ediff). It does drive better on backroads even when you’re just slightly pushing it ( versus my previous non 1le SS).

I do agree though that the 1le package looks awesome and if you want to spend extra just to get the 1le looks I wouldn’t blame you. It really does make it look menacing especially on the 2020+ front end. I also strongly prefer the recaros versus the non recaro seats. If you decide not to get a 1le I would definitely try to find a car with dual mode exhaust and magneride.

What difference do you notice between the Recaro seats and the stock leathers? I feel like I just need to sit in them to understand. I've heard they don't recline very far, as opposed to the stock seats. And I completely agree, at this point I will not buy it unless it is equipped with the MRC and NPP.

[JoeCamaro444]

Originally Posted by FarmerFran

You will miss absolutely nothing from a non 1LE car, actually you will be better off

Came here to say the same thing. 2SS, NPP exhaust, MRC, moonroof, and an M6!

[Nothing like an SS]

As a 1LE owner, if you do not intend to track, you won't miss much from the 1LE package. E diff is most useful pushing hard on a track. 1LE is actually a little slower than a regular SS due to the aero bits adding drag.

If DD is your target, and occasionally in snow, go with SS with magneride, dual mode and 6sp manual and you will not be disappointed.

1LEs do look mighty sexy, but if you do not really need those extra goodies (track), skip them and put the money towards something else.

Good luck whatever you decide!

[Gunkk]

MRC, NPP and a convertible top

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by QBoone

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it was my understanding that the upgrades included in the 1LE package do not directly affect the power output. I categorize this as more of a handling upgrade, which will produce better times on the track of course.

Of course, I upgraded the powertrain separately, the 1LE package is indeed about handling and control. At some point, however, stock SS wheels and tires become a limiting factor---if you're a very good driver, then this is already the case at stock power level, if you're just a mediocre enthusiast driver like me, it may only become an itch somewhat later.

Originally Posted by QBoone

Now the breaks I can't speak to at all. I feel the stock 4 piston breaks will do just fine for what I am looking for. I don't have any plans to track this car on any sort of regular basis, maybe once or twice a year, and that's on the high end. Thanks for your input!! I really appreciate yall!

No worries at all, the stock brakes work and stop the car just fine. The 1LE 6-piston fronts are bigger and dissipate heat better (they also come with much smaller dust shields), which helps manage heat when braking repeatedly at a very high deceleration rate. Since I increased the weight of the car with the power adders, I decided to step up the brakes as well, but this is definitely overkill at the stock SS power level (although these 1LE brakes do look much sexier )

[Wyzz Kydd]

Originally Posted by FarmerFran

You will miss absolutely nothing from a non 1LE car, actually you will be better off

I am skeptical when someone who doesn't own a 1LE and never has opines that you won't miss the features.

How would you know Fran?

Having owned both a 2016 1SS non 1LE and now a 2018 1SS 1LE there is zero chance I would go back to a Camaro without the 1LE package.

Better looking, better handling, holds it's value longer, and considering what you get for you money, a great deal. What's not to love?