[JKOR]

Does Touring mode even give you full throttle?

[2SS Capt]

Originally Posted by JKOR

Does Touring mode even give you full throttle?

Yes.

[ember1205]

Originally Posted by 2SS Capt

Yes.

But the parameters for the engine (air, fuel, timing, throttle response, etc.) are set a little different than other modes. So, it is a bit less responsive.

You can demonstrate this if you have a manual as the car will frequently stall off the line if you're trying to be "gentle". The same exact driving style in sport will never stall.

[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by ember1205

But the parameters for the engine (air, fuel, timing, throttle response, etc.) are set a little different than other modes. So, it is a bit less responsive.

You can demonstrate this if you have a manual as the car will frequently stall off the line if you're trying to be "gentle". The same exact driving style in sport will never stall.

Or put another way.

Touring Mode: More pedal to reach 100% WOT (MRC's and upgraded suspension drag racer use this mode due to weight transfer bias)
Sport Mode: Least amount of pedal to reach 100% WOT ( Hence: The reason why people say to drag race in sport, than Track or Touring - "It feels faster" but its no difference at WOT)
Track Mode: 1:1 Ratio, more pedal than sport but less than Touring Mode. (Mainly used for track courses but can be used for drag racing as well)

Also non MRC's do not change suspension.

[Summit20171SS]

Originally Posted by FlukeSS

Or put another way.

Touring Mode: More pedal to reach 100% WOT (MRC's and upgraded suspension drag racer use this mode due to weight transfer bias)
Sport Mode: Least amount of pedal to reach 100% WOT ( Hence: The reason why people say to drag race in sport, than Track or Touring - "It feels faster" but its no difference at WOT)
Track Mode: 1:1 Ratio, more pedal than sport but less than Touring Mode. (Mainly used for track courses but can be used for drag racing as well)

Also non MRC's do not change suspension.

This is pretty cool! I did not know that each mode changes those parameters. It may explain why in Touring mode I sometimes get a loud pop out my exhaust in between shifts at around 4500rpm

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by Summit20171SS

This is pretty cool! I did not know that each mode changes those parameters. It may explain why in Touring mode I sometimes get a loud pop out my exhaust in between shifts at around 4500rpm

Indeed, and there is even more that changes with the driving mode, see below. Some of these settings can even be "locked" to a specific mode in the vehicle settings menu, so for example you can set the suspension to always be in tour mode and/or the exhaust to be in track mode. while everything else "around" them changes with the driving mode. Really cool.

The only thing missing is the ability to save a configuration to a profile (akin to "z mode", "m mode" etc.), I guess the software guy was told to stop working on it because the car had to ship, and afterwards said software engineer was likely reassigned to some electric vehicle project and never had the time to prioritize the custom profile feature.

[Raikka-F1]

Originally Posted by FlukeSS

Or put another way.

Touring Mode: More pedal to reach 100% WOT (MRC's and upgraded suspension drag racer use this mode due to weight transfer bias)
Sport Mode: Least amount of pedal to reach 100% WOT ( Hence: The reason why people say to drag race in sport, than Track or Touring - "It feels faster" but its no difference at WOT)
Track Mode: 1:1 Ratio, more pedal than sport but less than Touring Mode. (Mainly used for track courses but can be used for drag racing as well)

Also non MRC's do not change suspension.

my exp has been different in my SS1LE manual. Touring gives me more throttle with less pedal travel than Track. I noticed after driving mostly in track mode, whenever I switch to Touring/Sport and get off the line, my RPMs shoot much higher in that initial start.

[Summit20171SS]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

Indeed, and there is even more that changes with the driving mode, see below. Some of these settings can even be "locked" to a specific mode in the vehicle settings menu, so for example you can set the suspension to always be in tour mode and/or the exhaust to be in track mode. while everything else "around" them changes with the driving mode. Really cool.

The only thing missing is the ability to save a configuration to a profile (akin to "z mode", "m mode" etc.), I guess the software guy was told to stop working on it because the car had to ship, and afterwards said software engineer was likely reassigned to some electric vehicle project and never had the time to prioritize the custom profile feature.

Pretty interesting, I wonder if the overall power of the engine changes in that mode also?

[N Camarolina]

Originally Posted by Raikka-F1

my exp has been different in my SS1LE manual. Touring gives me more throttle with less pedal travel than Track. I noticed after driving mostly in track mode, whenever I switch to Touring/Sport and get off the line, my RPMs shoot much higher in that initial start.

That's because the throttle mapping in Track mode is LINEAR (to make throttle more inputs more predictable in a road course setting where subtle throttle changes are often necessary), and exaggerated at throttle tip-in for Sport mode (and apparently Tour mode as well). Having said that, IMO, Sport mode throttle tip- in feels even more exaggerated than Tour.

[ember1205]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

I guess the software guy was told to stop working on it because the car had to ship, and afterwards said software engineer was likely reassigned to some electric vehicle project and never had the time to prioritize the custom profile feature.

GM software is garbage. I can show you examples of how the system reacts faster in specific situations compared to others because it's able to literally "skip" steps in the programming that are meaningless in the first place.

Why can't I have TWO auto-volume settings in my convertible? One that's compatible with having the top up and one that's compatible with having the top down? The volume increase requirements are different due to wind noise...

Why does the system in my truck periodically block me from operating anything, including the radio, until/unless I tap "Ok" (while the truck is in motion, mind you) to a warning that I need to pay attention to the road.

[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by Raikka-F1

my exp has been different in my SS1LE manual. Touring gives me more throttle with less pedal travel than Track. I noticed after driving mostly in track mode, whenever I switch to Touring/Sport and get off the line, my RPMs shoot much higher in that initial start.

I have an A10, so I defer to my M6 brethren on how the modes work, because from what I read its not the same as the Autos

But, I do know Track mode for the auto: Performance shift mode is more aggressive as opposed to the other two modes, which as I mentioned track is normally used on a track course and for the A10 is pretty much a go to mode in that scenario.

Although I use Track mode at the drag strip myself, my thought process is I'll get a better feel of the power my car has hoping to improve my consistency on launches.

Sport mode has a higher power step curve than Track, so you can over pedal easily on launch and break the tires loose on the A10's

Where as Touring has a hesitation due to the power step curve being lower. (more pedal to get the same output as sport or track)

[Dynamical]

Originally Posted by FlukeSS

I have an A10, so I defer to my M6 brethren on how the modes work, because from what I read its not the same as the Autos

But, I do know Track mode for the auto: Performance shift mode is more aggressive as opposed to the other two modes, which as I mentioned track is normally used on a track course and for the A10 is pretty much a go to mode in that scenario.

Although I use Track mode at the drag strip myself, my thought process is I'll get a better feel of the power my car has hoping to improve my consistency on launches.

Sport mode has a higher power step curve than Track, so you can over pedal easily on launch and break the tires loose on the A10's

Where as Touring has a hesitation due to the power step curve being lower. (more pedal to get the same output as sport or track)

In your view, (or whoever knows ) what is the best mode for someone at the drag strip, with a drag pack and wants all the power and best shifting that can be had in the A10. I only have sport mode (LT1) but the modes confuse me as to what they exactly do. Because I don't have track mode, am I missing out on full power or shifting? Or is the track mode vs sport more of a suspension thing?
I have it in sport, all nannies off with drag pack when going down the 1/4 but I'm still a newbie to these cars.

[KingLT1]

The modes on automatic cars impact throttle mapping, suspension(on MRC only), and steering. Strictly speaking in terms of straight line performance, my car is the slowest in track mode. But track mode is the most fun mode to drive the car in as the throttle feels the most responsive. Touring mode is the fastest in terms of trap speed. Most of the faster Auto 6th gens use Touring at the track. That being said my quickest times on the street with Dragy comes from Sport mode. And that is only because Sport seems to get me the better balance of throttle input when trying to launch. Touring comes out lazy then, just goes instant 100% throttle.

In the end it's just going to come down to the cars, setup, options, and tuning. Try all the modes and see what works best for you.

[ember1205]

Originally Posted by KingLT1

The modes on automatic cars impact throttle mapping, suspension(on MRC only), and steering. Strictly speaking in terms of straight line performance, my car is the slowest in track mode. But track mode is the most fun mode to drive the car in as the throttle feels the most responsive. Touring mode is the fastest in terms of trap speed. Most of the faster Auto 6th gens use Touring at the track. That being said my quickest times on the street with Dragy comes from Sport mode. And that is only because Sport seems to get me the better balance of throttle input when trying to launch. Touring comes out lazy then, just goes instant 100% throttle.

In the end it's just going to come down to the cars, setup, options, and tuning. Try all the modes and see what works best for you.

What? No "this is the only way" comment? You don't know how the Internet works at all.

In all seriousness - I believe you hit the nail on the head. Yes, the modes make changes but situation (location, weather, track conditions, etc.) + car (tune, fuel, tires, mode, etc.) + driver is the formula to understand which specific way to do it works best.