Does navigation require subscription to get speed limit in hud? - Page 2

KyBoy · 11-19-2021, 01:28 PM

We can see too far.

M0dnar · 11-19-2021, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by arpad_m

What is terrible enough about seeing the posted speed limit in the DIC to earn it the "worst feature" title?

Plausible deniability

arpad_m · 11-19-2021, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by M0dnar

Plausible deniability

Of what? Seeing the posted limit signs? I don't understand, you're expected to know the speed limit all the time, whether or not your car offers any software help.

hotlap · 11-19-2021, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by arpad_m

Of what? Seeing the posted limit signs? I don't understand, you're expected to know the speed limit all the time, whether or not your car offers any software help.

I like to always be able to see what the limits is at a quick glance when I’m not sure

JKSully · 11-19-2021, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by M0dnar

Plausible deniability

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Originally Posted by arpad_m

Of what? Seeing the posted limit signs? I don't understand, you're expected to know the speed limit all the time, whether or not your car offers any software help.

benji276289 · 09-03-2023, 02:46 AM

So if your DIC doesn't show the speed limit, you can't be held responsible for exceeding it??? I guess the local authorities also can't hold you responsible if you don't see the speed limit signs they have posted throughout their locality. Just tell the officer you are legally blind and could not possibly be held responsible for any speed limit signs posted.

Val Walkinshaw · 09-03-2023, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by M0dnar

Oh, you get that permanently as well. Which is terrible and the worst feature GM has ever put in their cars.

I'm guessing you noticed the PSL is consistently off by 5mph? I updated my 18 to 22 nav last summer. Many highways are still 5 off-could be just my state I suppose.

Also my 18 with Nav has always shown the PSL on the bottom to the left.

dpevans · 09-03-2023, 08:09 AM

Didn't buy a Camaro to worry about the speed limit or gas mileage.

SS_Don · 09-06-2023, 06:24 AM

I have a ‘22 with NAV and it does not have PSL anywhere.

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arpad_m · 09-06-2023, 07:40 AM

The speed limit in the DIC/HUD works perfectly fine for me. When I pass a sign that changes the PSL, the display changes to the correct value within half a second. (In fact, everything works perfectly on my car, hope I'm not jinxing it now, but I never had any other vehicle that I could say the same thing about. Every single piece of functionality works 100% of the time, even all my aftermarket stuff, crazy.)

The car does not honor any temporarily posted signs, of course, the nav is still not updated continuously like google maps or waze. I do have the 2023 map update, although I'm not sure how much that helps as the posted limits don't change very often on existing roads.

Number 3 · 09-06-2023, 10:48 AM

I've had NAV in all my cars since 2013 with the exception of my current company car, a VW Atlas. It does have Apple Car play and with a large monitor there is NO reason to get NAV in a car. Wireless Car Play (which GM is abandoning) has replaced NAV for me going forward. However, Google Maps only shows speed limits when you are in a trip. Otherwise you just get the map. But you do see traffic slowdowns, which with GM I believe you still have to subscribe to XM traffic to get the traffic to show up on your NAV.

Tbone98 · 09-06-2023, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dpevans

Didn't buy a Camaro to worry about the speed limit or gas mileage.

wintertopdown · 09-07-2023, 08:48 PM

Interesting, so the car knows the speed limit of the given road? I’d imagine it records this information. A gold mine of data for authorities…

JamesNoBrakes · 09-07-2023, 10:47 PM

Paying for nav in cars is always a losing battle. It never works as good as google maps-directions.

That said, somehow my Stinger with no nav subscription always knows the speed limits if I put it in map mode, even in Canada. Not sure if it's "reading" the signs or something.

11-19-2021, 01:28 PM	#15
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09-06-2023, 06:24 AM	#23
SS_Don Drives: '22 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Dec 2021 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 1,471 View My Garage	I have a ‘22 with NAV and it does not have PSL anywhere. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ '22 2SS \| Wild Cherry Tintcoat \| Design Package 3 \| NPP \| MRC \| A10 \| NAV \| Ceramic Coating \| Full Frontal PPF \| New Hood and Side Stripes \| Michelin PS AS 4 \| Range AFM Disabler Mishimoto Catch Can \| Diode Dynamics side markers \| Cold Air Inductions CAI \| LLoyd Velourtex front/trunk mats with Camaro SS logo \| Footwell Lighting \| Umbra Sequential LED Taillights ZL1addons Deluxe Rock Guards, Stealth Lift Pads, and Tow Hook \| Escort MAXcam360c \| Banks Data Pro and Pro gauges in ZZPerformance pillar pod \| Paddle shifter extensions

09-06-2023, 07:40 AM	#24
arpad_m Drives: 2018 Camaro 2SS A8 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 13,449 View My Garage	The speed limit in the DIC/HUD works perfectly fine for me. When I pass a sign that changes the PSL, the display changes to the correct value within half a second. (In fact, everything works perfectly on my car, hope I'm not jinxing it now, but I never had any other vehicle that I could say the same thing about. Every single piece of functionality works 100% of the time, even all my aftermarket stuff, crazy.) The car does not honor any temporarily posted signs, of course, the nav is still not updated continuously like google maps or waze. I do have the 2023 map update, although I'm not sure how much that helps as the posted limits don't change very often on existing roads. __________________ 2018 Camaro 2SS — G7E MX0 NPP F55 IO6 735 rwhp \| 665 rwtq Magnuson TVS 2300 80mm pulley \| Kooks 1 7/8" LT headers \| JRE smooth idle Terminator cam \| LT4 FS & injectors \| TSP forged pistons & rods JMS PowerMAX \| DSX flex fuel kit \| Roto-Fab CAI \| Soler 95mm LT5 TB \| 1LE wheels \| 1LE brakes \| BMR rear cradle lockout \| JRE custom tune 1100 - 1/30/18 \| 2000 - 1/31/18 3000 - 2/06/18 TPW 2/26/18 3400 - 2/19/18 \| 3800 - 2/26/18 4300 - 2/27/18 \| 4B00 - 3/01/18 4200 - 3/05/18 \| 4800 - 3/14/18 5000 - 3/16/18 \| 6000 - 3/19/18

09-06-2023, 10:48 AM	#25
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,311 View My Garage	I've had NAV in all my cars since 2013 with the exception of my current company car, a VW Atlas. It does have Apple Car play and with a large monitor there is NO reason to get NAV in a car. Wireless Car Play (which GM is abandoning) has replaced NAV for me going forward. However, Google Maps only shows speed limits when you are in a trip. Otherwise you just get the map. But you do see traffic slowdowns, which with GM I believe you still have to subscribe to XM traffic to get the traffic to show up on your NAV. __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley

09-07-2023, 08:48 PM	#27
wintertopdown Drives: 22 Convertible V8 LT1 Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Jensen Beach, Florida Posts: 229	Interesting, so the car knows the speed limit of the given road? I’d imagine it records this information. A gold mine of data for authorities… __________________ I bought my first 6-Speed convertible Camaro in November 2018 and now drive a Hot Red V8 LT1 M6. My Windows Sticker: https://cws.gm.com/vs-cws/vehshop/v2...FE3D78N0129849

09-03-2023, 02:46 AM	#20
benji276289 Drives: 2021 Camaro 2SS1LE, 6 spd.man., Ora Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Roanoke County, Va. Posts: 1,154	So if your DIC doesn't show the speed limit, you can't be held responsible for exceeding it??? I guess the local authorities also can't hold you responsible if you don't see the speed limit signs they have posted throughout their locality. Just tell the officer you are legally blind and could not possibly be held responsible for any speed limit signs posted.

09-03-2023, 08:09 AM	#22
dpevans Drives: 2024 Riverside Blue 2SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Posts: 1,373	Didn't buy a Camaro to worry about the speed limit or gas mileage.

09-07-2023, 10:47 PM	#28
JamesNoBrakes Drives: 2SS 1LE Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: AK Posts: 2,377	Paying for nav in cars is always a losing battle. It never works as good as google maps-directions. That said, somehow my Stinger with no nav subscription always knows the speed limits if I put it in map mode, even in Canada. Not sure if it's "reading" the signs or something. __________________ Everything happens for a reason, except when it doesn't, but even then, you can, in hindsight, fabricate a reason that satisfies your belief system. 2018 2SS 1LE 2023 Colorado ZR2 2022 Stinger GT-line AWD

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