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07-19-2023, 05:36 PM | #86 | |
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Good one! Aside from the fact EV's are more expensive even with the subsidies and make little sense for that reason (more dollars, less utility) I wouldn't buy one for just one reason. I don't want to have to charge a EV in my attached garage while I sleep at night. When just a couple of those many thousands of individual cells decide to short out and start a fire there is no stopping it, you are going to lose your house, maybe your dog and your family. Crazy that GM started telling Bolt owners to park at least 50 feet away from structures after they burned down a couple of houses. I know some apartment buildings with underground lots won't let Ev's in them. Read an article that a fire chief says 200 gallons to put out a regular car fire, for a EV 20,000 gallons might not do it and then they start back up hours later.
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I find it funny that some try to stir the beehive on a muscle car forum pushing their wet dream ... buy what you want people stop trying to convince others of the "right' way to live. I'm not gonna go on a EV forum and waste my life trying to push my beliefs that an American made V8 raises testosterone because there are better things in life than arguing online.
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I'm a software developer with no reason to complain, God has blessed me in many ways along my unusual turns in life and my several careers. Anyway, my yardstick of being "rich" is having just a bit more than one uses or needs for others, and by standard I'm rich. Heck, I even have a Camaro that I bought new (first new car in my life, probably the last, too) and was able to build it to the max that I can handle. Quote:
I can attest that there is a pervasive lack of real, authentic men in our society, which is what I took as the gist of genxer's semi-hidden message. Been working on at least not being part of that problem for many years. But all this is way off topic, I'll end it here before evoking too much moderator irk.
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07-20-2023, 06:01 AM | #91 |
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If you consider EPA and CARB Government masters? And any ICE powertrain doesn't satisfy those two.
CARB is the real pain here, although I'm pretty sure no one would want to drive an EPA compliant car in a few years. Last I recall, and it's been a while, EPA GHG rules were the equivalent of 50 MPG. There are no Camaros in that landscape either. EPA has not banned ICE. CARB has.
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07-20-2023, 09:00 AM | #92 | |
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"Still, before it faded away in 1998, Newton paved the way for PDAs, which led, in turn, to today's smart phones. In particular, the smaller, cheaper Palm Pilot, which was released in 1995 and became a runaway success." These EV threads are always the same, just a bunch of old cranks whining about change. |
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Some of us "old cranks" would like to EVs succeed on their own merits, without government subsidies, regulations driving out competing/legacy technologies, and free market manipulations like carbon exchanges. I don't hate change, just think this one is being forced upon us, top-down, too quickly, at great expense to the consumer and the taxpayer.
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07-20-2023, 10:36 AM | #94 | |
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Totally agree there should be no subsidies for buying an EV or subsidies for charging infrastructure. But I do believe the technology needs to stand on its own. And I believe it will.
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07-20-2023, 10:49 AM | #97 |
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we have to station troops in other countries so that you can reliably fuel your vehicle.... I really don't know what you are all on about "own merits".
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07-20-2023, 11:04 AM | #98 | |
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Again, maybe I'll get one someday, but... stop trying to FORCE me through policies that limit my choices. If driving one makes you feel better about your children, go for it. Shaming people into rushing into something we don't believe is ready, competitive, or comparable to what we already have won't work, either. |
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