2SS Owner Dilemma! Need Advice from ZL1 Owners! - Page 2

arpad_m · 05-31-2023, 01:31 PM

Okay, one more thing in addition to what I and others said above: test drive a stock ZL1 and see for yourself how it drives, how it makes you feel, whether it's worth the $20K+ bath you'll take if you trade or sell your 2SS.

FarmerFran · 05-31-2023, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by arpad_m

Okay, one more thing in addition to what I and others said above: test drive a stock ZL1 and see for yourself how it drives, how it makes you feel, whether it's worth the $20K+ bath you'll take if you trade or sell your 2SS.

Absolutely no question it is worth the $$

Keko · 05-31-2023, 02:06 PM

I bought a new M6 ZLE on Monday, and was only able to take it for a short test drive. I haven't picked it up yet. But my first thoughts were basically 3 things-

1) It's going to be hard to get the satisfaction of winding out multiple gears on public roads, depending on your area. They are long and it gets up to speed quickly. However,
2) Low and Mid range power is through the ****ing roof compared to a SS, and even short shifting was WAY more satisfying than my SS. It's not all about top end and total hp figures.
3) This is specific to the ZLE - but the suspension was not nearly as rough as some people make it out to be.

LT4Greg · 05-31-2023, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by FarmerFran

Absolutely no question it is worth the $$

Absolutely agree with you Fran!👍

adamjwilson · 05-31-2023, 03:12 PM

[QUOTE=Chevelle vs Camaro;11320553]When’s the last time you had a warranty issue with a car? Most worry about them but never used them.

Pro charge it and if anything did happen to go wrong you’ll have plenty money left to fix. Also although I love a ZL1 I would rather customize yours the way you want than have a cookie cutter ZL1.

Spend the extra money to make your 2ss unique. It looks good by the way…

Just my personal opinion.

The cost difference between the 2SS and ZL1 was the deciding factor for me, as I could build a faster 2SS that an stock ZL1 for the $20-30k difference.
Whatever you decide, make the car unique and your own

Kreinmc · 05-31-2023, 05:29 PM

I was in the same boat recently. I purchased a new 2022 2SS 1LE thinking it would satisfy my need for speed, but it let me down in that department. I've had quite a few fast cars (most recently a hellcat charger) and missed having a fast sports car. When I got it, it just didn't seem to have the pep I expected and it was confirmed when I took it to the drag strip and couldn't even hit 110 mph.. yikes, not that much quicker than the fbody's of the early 2000s... thought they had come a lot further in all these years.

Anyways, immediately traded to a c7 z06 and it hauls a$$ like i'd expect it to, but i'm not sure i'm a vette guy and think I would have ultimately been happier either modding the 2SS (was so new i didn't want to rip it up) or just getting what I wanted originally, which was the zl1. Still might find me a zl1 one of these days and call it a day.

Good luck.

FarmerFran · 05-31-2023, 05:37 PM

[QUOTE=adamjwilson;11321217]

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Originally Posted by Chevelle vs Camaro

When’s the last time you had a warranty issue with a car? Most worry about them but never used them.

Pro charge it and if anything did happen to go wrong you’ll have plenty money left to fix. Also although I love a ZL1 I would rather customize yours the way you want than have a cookie cutter ZL1.

Spend the extra money to make your 2ss unique. It looks good by the way…

Just my personal opinion.

The cost difference between the 2SS and ZL1 was the deciding factor for me, as I could build a faster 2SS that an stock ZL1 for the $20-30k difference.
Whatever you decide, make the car unique and your own

How much you in so far? And what is your power?

WiggyB · 05-31-2023, 06:01 PM

I would say it depends on your end goals with the car. Are you looking for the stock power of the ZL1? If so throw a maggy or whipple on the 2SS to get that low to mid range power and be slightly faster. If you want to go further than the stock power of the ZL1 then spring for it and you have the forged internals to work with.

Myself wanted to build my car to my liking so its exactly how I want it. Just wanted something I could put my own stamp on with good power. I'm slightly over 10k on mines and from the horror stories about dealer warranty work I'll take my chances with a trust worthy shop. Atleast they will take pride in the work and not be a warranty push out the door.

Gunkk · 05-31-2023, 08:28 PM

I test drove an SS. It wasn't enough.

Then I test drove a ZL1. It was enough.

LT4Greg · 05-31-2023, 08:59 PM

�� Gunkk

arpad_m · 05-31-2023, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunkk

I test drove an SS. It wasn't enough.

Then I test drove a ZL1. It was enough.

I drove my SS at ZL1 power (560 rwhp), and it wasn't enough

Then I upgraded it to 735 rwhp and that's what I finally found enough.

The point is, this is all subjective and depends on OP's preferences, the importance he attributes to owning the top trim, and last but not least, his thirst (hunger?) for power.

Bosse'sBoss · 06-01-2023, 06:13 AM

In this order of preference:

1. Camaro ZL1

2. Camaro SS1LE

3. Camaro SS

sactownbwoy · 06-01-2023, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by taylorforschool@gmail.com

LT1 to ZL1. I don’t even know how financially responsible it was in hindsight but I still don’t regret it. It has shown me how little dollars mean to me other than to an end to get what I want. My only regret is not having the budget to go wild with it yet. Warranty until 2028 so I’ll sit on that for now. I guess it’s worth mentioning I had to get the trans rebuilt at 14k and thankfully it’s ran flawless for 3k miles or so

I did the same thing. '21 LT1 to a '22 ZLE. I've had it for a year and 4 months now and at 30k miles, no issues. Lots of cosmetic modifications but before the end of the year I plan on doing a flex fuel tune and headers.

To the OP, I felt it was worth it. It is a nice upgrade and I plan to keep the car until it won't drive anymore.

LT4Greg · 06-01-2023, 04:23 PM

Wow a 1963 Impala with a 409!��

05-31-2023, 01:31 PM	#15
arpad_m Drives: 2018 Camaro 2SS A8 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 13,449 View My Garage	Okay, one more thing in addition to what I and others said above: test drive a stock ZL1 and see for yourself how it drives, how it makes you feel, whether it's worth the $20K+ bath you'll take if you trade or sell your 2SS. __________________ 2018 Camaro 2SS — G7E MX0 NPP F55 IO6 735 rwhp \| 665 rwtq Magnuson TVS 2300 80mm pulley \| Kooks 1 7/8" LT headers \| JRE smooth idle Terminator cam \| LT4 FS & injectors \| TSP forged pistons & rods JMS PowerMAX \| DSX flex fuel kit \| Roto-Fab CAI \| Soler 95mm LT5 TB \| 1LE wheels \| 1LE brakes \| BMR rear cradle lockout \| JRE custom tune 1100 - 1/30/18 \| 2000 - 1/31/18 3000 - 2/06/18 TPW 2/26/18 3400 - 2/19/18 \| 3800 - 2/26/18 4300 - 2/27/18 \| 4B00 - 3/01/18 4200 - 3/05/18 \| 4800 - 3/14/18 5000 - 3/16/18 \| 6000 - 3/19/18

05-31-2023, 02:06 PM	#17
Keko Drives: 2023 ZLE M6 Join Date: Jun 2022 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 200	I bought a new M6 ZLE on Monday, and was only able to take it for a short test drive. I haven't picked it up yet. But my first thoughts were basically 3 things- 1) It's going to be hard to get the satisfaction of winding out multiple gears on public roads, depending on your area. They are long and it gets up to speed quickly. However, 2) Low and Mid range power is through the ****ing roof compared to a SS, and even short shifting was WAY more satisfying than my SS. It's not all about top end and total hp figures. 3) This is specific to the ZLE - but the suspension was not nearly as rough as some people make it out to be. __________________ 2023 ZLE M6 Borla S-Type Catback \| Rotofab CAI \| Soler TB \| MPI Lid 2024 Polestar 2 AWD

05-31-2023, 03:12 PM	#19
adamjwilson Drives: 2022 Camaro 2SS A10 Join Date: Jul 2022 Location: FL Posts: 529	[QUOTE=Chevelle vs Camaro;11320553]When’s the last time you had a warranty issue with a car? Most worry about them but never used them. Pro charge it and if anything did happen to go wrong you’ll have plenty money left to fix. Also although I love a ZL1 I would rather customize yours the way you want than have a cookie cutter ZL1. Spend the extra money to make your 2ss unique. It looks good by the way… Just my personal opinion. The cost difference between the 2SS and ZL1 was the deciding factor for me, as I could build a faster 2SS that an stock ZL1 for the $20-30k difference. Whatever you decide, make the car unique and your own __________________ 2022 Camaro 2SS/ Whipple 3.0 / 2"Headers/ PRC LTX Heads/ Forged Internals/LT4 fueling/ DSX Aux/ DSX Flex Fuel/ Meth Injection/ Katech 112 TB/ RotoFab Big Gulp/ Corsa NPP/ Various exterior mods

05-31-2023, 06:01 PM	#22
WiggyB Drives: 2022 Camaro 2SS 1LE Join Date: Nov 2021 Location: NC Posts: 410	I would say it depends on your end goals with the car. Are you looking for the stock power of the ZL1? If so throw a maggy or whipple on the 2SS to get that low to mid range power and be slightly faster. If you want to go further than the stock power of the ZL1 then spring for it and you have the forged internals to work with. Myself wanted to build my car to my liking so its exactly how I want it. Just wanted something I could put my own stamp on with good power. I'm slightly over 10k on mines and from the horror stories about dealer warranty work I'll take my chances with a trust worthy shop. Atleast they will take pride in the work and not be a warranty push out the door. __________________ d1sc w/ stage 2 intercooler, Lt4 fueling, JMS BAP, lt2 intake, mamo ptb, kooks 1/78 longtube headers w/ h/f cats, alky meth kit, thpsi port injection

05-31-2023, 08:59 PM	#24
LT4Greg Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Coupe Join Date: May 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,875	�� Gunkk __________________ ZL1 Coupe, PDR, Exposed carbon fiber hood insert, My Link with Nav, M6 6 speed and Silver Ice Metallic. Mods done: ceramic window tint, GM Accessories Camaro floor mats and Roto-Fab CAI.

05-31-2023, 05:29 PM	#20
Kreinmc Drives: Jeep gladiator Join Date: Oct 2022 Location: AZ Posts: 5	I was in the same boat recently. I purchased a new 2022 2SS 1LE thinking it would satisfy my need for speed, but it let me down in that department. I've had quite a few fast cars (most recently a hellcat charger) and missed having a fast sports car. When I got it, it just didn't seem to have the pep I expected and it was confirmed when I took it to the drag strip and couldn't even hit 110 mph.. yikes, not that much quicker than the fbody's of the early 2000s... thought they had come a lot further in all these years. Anyways, immediately traded to a c7 z06 and it hauls a$$ like i'd expect it to, but i'm not sure i'm a vette guy and think I would have ultimately been happier either modding the 2SS (was so new i didn't want to rip it up) or just getting what I wanted originally, which was the zl1. Still might find me a zl1 one of these days and call it a day. Good luck.

05-31-2023, 08:28 PM	#23
Gunkk Thank you Al Oppenheiser! Drives: Red Hot A10 ZL1 Convertible Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Sarasota, FL Posts: 5,181 View My Garage	I test drove an SS. It wasn't enough. Then I test drove a ZL1. It was enough.

06-01-2023, 06:13 AM	#26
Bosse'sBoss Drives: '16 Camaro SS 6 spd manual transm. Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: RGV Texas Posts: 1,549	In this order of preference: 1. Camaro ZL1 2. Camaro SS1LE 3. Camaro SS __________________ '16 Camaro SS Prior cars: '14 Corvette C7 Stingray Z51 '14 Camaro ZL1 w/. Recaro seats '11 Mustang GT 5.0 w. track package '02 Porsche 911 Carrera '05 Infiniti G35 coupe sport

06-01-2023, 04:23 PM	#28
LT4Greg Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Coupe Join Date: May 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,875	Wow a 1963 Impala with a 409!�� __________________ ZL1 Coupe, PDR, Exposed carbon fiber hood insert, My Link with Nav, M6 6 speed and Silver Ice Metallic. Mods done: ceramic window tint, GM Accessories Camaro floor mats and Roto-Fab CAI.

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