[The Maverick]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

See?

Because the A10 is....

a 10!

[Warrior102]

M6 here, I sometimes wondered if I would be better off with an auto until I come across these threads. Never drove an auto Camaro but my GMC truck has an A10 and it drives me crazy, it's always doing something.

[CHASLT1]

The A10 in my 2021 LT1 was nite and day better than the A8 in my new 2019 C7. Car felt 10 times faster than my C7 did. The A6 has always been good in all of my C6's. I got some odd stuff going on with my C6 i have now where you hit the gas like normal and there is a bad dead spot for 2 to 3 secs sometimes where you get no throttle reponse. This seems to happen when driving around 20 to 30mph and when you press down on the gas nothing and sometimes the RMP's shoot up to 4000 or more.

[arpad_m]

Okay, full disclosure, my A8 is tuned (by Ted Jannetty), and it's perfect except for the paddle shift delay that is practically unfixable.

I didn't sense a big difference between a stock A10 and my tuned A8. Sure, it has an extra gear between 4th and 5th, which helps in drag/roll racing, the paddles respond much faster, which is nice, but other than these two, the vast majority of transmission functionality works much the same way.

The shudder is something I only hear about from others, shifts are smooth in tour, crisp in sport/track, beastly at WOT; gear hunting is nonexistent up/downshifts perform just as I would expect; lurches, slowness, lack of throttle response, you name it, just don't happen at all.

Granted, this is apples to oranges to some extent, but it shows that the hardware is mostly there with the A8, its main letdown seems to be the stock calibration it comes with.

[79 TransAm that never was]

Originally Posted by Camby

A couple of times now something strange has happened while accelerating. If I’m cruising at a constant speed and press the gas pedal 3/4 while in sport mode in an attempt to gain a lot but not excessive amount of of acceleration, my automatic SS 1LE goes into a performance shift mode, my engine goes up to some high rpm value and all that gas I wanted is only slowly introduced to the engine instead of throwing me back in my seat. It’s like I tell it to “quick punch it”, but instead I get a nagging parent asking me “are you sure you want to speed up? Ok, I’ll speed you up, I guess …” What the heck is my car doing?!


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Many have raved about the A10 and I certainly won't hold their choice against them, but I've owned more GM automatics than I can count and every one of them I've taken issue with. I hate how GM's automatics respond.
My Silverado's clunked into gears at odd times. Equinox automatics are garbage that eat up torque converters. My wife's 2021 6 CYL. Blazer shifts 4 times getting to 25MPH, and when ya get on it and take your foot off the accelerator the engine continues to rev at a high RPM as though it's in some kind of neutral. Putting the trans into "manual" allows me to shift when I want, but I didn't buy a Blazer with an automatic to do the shifting for it!

So when I ordered my Camaro I kept in mind how much I hate GM's automatics, so it was an easy decision to go with the manual. And now that I have the CAGS skip shift eliminator installed, shifts into ANY gear are up to me, not a stupid computer, and I love it! Sure you can shift an automatic manually, but why spend the extra money for an automatic if you're going to do the shifting for it anyway?

[mariojas]

I drove ZFs 8speed in Charger 392, and Stinger Auto - both quick, very good automatics. But there is always this disconnect - auto will never guess correctly, unless you punch it - easy to predict, you wanna go. But any other time it either hangs on low gear to long, or changes gear too quickly... nah man, manual for daily driving all the way.

[Gen6cyl]

I guess that is why drift cars use manual transmission, better control.

[JT6Speed]

Originally Posted by Gen6cyl

I guess that is why drift cars use manual transmission, better control.

And until recently most "performance" oriented packages of cars were only available in manual. GT350, GT500, Z06, 1LE, Terminator, etc.

[haggler]

I'm by all means a manual only guy, always been. Only thing I will say the auto has much shorter gears, so if you're punching this around the city - you can enjoy revving it out much more without hitting triple digits. But then again revving it out is more fun in a manual.

[Gen6cyl]

Originally Posted by haggler

I'm by all means a manual only guy, always been. Only thing I will say the auto has much shorter gears, so if you're punching this around the city - you can enjoy revving it out much more without hitting triple digits. But then again revving it out is more fun in a manual.

Yeah the lt1 does 80 in 2nd and the v6 does 90 in third.

[Boost-Maro]

Lol 8 speed is not faster than the 10 ur the first person I ever heard say that and ofc you have a 8 spd and wish to think that lol

[cjperformance]

Sounds to me like torque mgmt kicking in on the downshift. Try turning off the nannies.

Especially since boosting the power on mine, downshifting just by flooring it with the nannies on is ..... disappointing.

[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by Camby

A couple of times now something strange has happened while accelerating. If I’m cruising at a constant speed and press the gas pedal 3/4 while in sport mode in an attempt to gain a lot but not excessive amount of of acceleration, my automatic SS 1LE goes into a performance shift mode, my engine goes up to some high rpm value and all that gas I wanted is only slowly introduced to the engine instead of throwing me back in my seat. It’s like I tell it to “quick punch it”, but instead I get a nagging parent asking me “are you sure you want to speed up? Ok, I’ll speed you up, I guess …” What the heck is my car doing?!


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As others have said:

Performance Shitnget mode is basically designed for roll racing, and track course use.

If however, you use Traction control, the car will bog down due to traction limitations.

Turning on Performance Shift mode is easy: Slam gas pedal to floor then let off immediately: A10's will down shift to the lowest possible gear relative to speed for 7 seconds. This is normal functionality. Also Hard braking will engage the mode, as well as hard sharp turns.

Different drive modes make that more sensitive, Sport and Track in particular.

That said, what you were doing was not to try to engage Performance Shift mode: But giving that much pedal with the intention of it not being excessive will cause either performance shift mode to engage if that pedal pressure is fast enough, or the transmission just downshifts multiple gears to give you the power output you are expecting. The ECM/Trans likely thinks its time to play, and you are going to keep on the pedal.

Again remember Performance shift mode is more sensitive with Sport and Track mode. If you drive in touring and try that 3/4 pedal pressure you will often see less of performance shift mode. I actually struggled to enable it with Touring mode only seemed to when doing WOT runs.

[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by The Maverick

Because the A10 is....

a 10!

And 10 is > 8 > 6

Mathematical Fact