Homepage Garage Wiki Register Community Calendar Today's Posts Search
#Camaro6
Go Back   CAMARO6 > CAMARO6.com General Forums > 2016+ Camaro: 6th Gen Camaro general forum


KPM Fuel Systems


Post Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 04-04-2023, 02:37 PM   #1
FlukeSS

 
FlukeSS's Avatar
 
Drives: 2020 Camaro 2SS A10
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Here
Posts: 1,841
Trans Fluid System

Having my filter changed, Mechanic I went to says his system is telling him my car has a 8.1 Qt trans fluid system, but when I bought the AC Delco trans fluid from Rock Auto it said it was a 3.7 Qt system.

Does anyone know how many quarts I need for this?
__________________
2020 Camaro 2SS A10 | Rebuilt by: CBI Street Cars | 2" SE LT Headers | 3" SE X-Pipe | 3" MBRP Axle-Back | Pri & Sec Cat Deletes | Roto-Fab CAI | LT2 Ported | 95mm ZR1 TB | LSA crankshaft conversion w/modified crank gear | LS1 thrust bearing | Gen V Hinson Plug Wire Set | BTR 220 Stage I Cam | ARP Rod Bolts | Delphi Lifter set | NGK LTR6IX-11 spark plug set | DOD Delete | VVT Limiter | ECM, TCM & E85 | Retuned by: Justin L. | Dyno: 510 rwhp 472 rwtq | Best 1/4 Time: 11.639
FlukeSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2023, 04:44 PM   #2
Rock-It Man
376 cubic inches of fun
 
Rock-It Man's Avatar
 
Drives: 2023 Camaro ZL1 A10
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: MA
Posts: 4,043
Have you looked at the owners manual? The answer is in there.

If you or a previous owner have lost the book, you can view and download the OM at chevrolet.com.
Rock-It Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2023, 05:52 PM   #3
FlukeSS

 
FlukeSS's Avatar
 
Drives: 2020 Camaro 2SS A10
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Here
Posts: 1,841
Never had a book with the car, but chevrolet.com it is
__________________
2020 Camaro 2SS A10 | Rebuilt by: CBI Street Cars | 2" SE LT Headers | 3" SE X-Pipe | 3" MBRP Axle-Back | Pri & Sec Cat Deletes | Roto-Fab CAI | LT2 Ported | 95mm ZR1 TB | LSA crankshaft conversion w/modified crank gear | LS1 thrust bearing | Gen V Hinson Plug Wire Set | BTR 220 Stage I Cam | ARP Rod Bolts | Delphi Lifter set | NGK LTR6IX-11 spark plug set | DOD Delete | VVT Limiter | ECM, TCM & E85 | Retuned by: Justin L. | Dyno: 510 rwhp 472 rwtq | Best 1/4 Time: 11.639
FlukeSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2023, 05:56 PM   #4
FlukeSS

 
FlukeSS's Avatar
 
Drives: 2020 Camaro 2SS A10
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Here
Posts: 1,841
So ya, now I get a bunch of different numbers.

8.1 - Mechanic
3.4 - Camaro 6 forums
3.7 - Rock Auto
10 - Trans flush (which is not what I'm getting) - Bill Estes's Chevrolet

and more results from Camaro6 Forum which are not applicable

Quote:
Originally Posted by DIYguy View Post
According to the FSM I have-

Pan drain and filter- 7.0L/7.4 qt.
Overhaul- 10.3L/10.88 qt.
Complete w/cooler- 10.8L/11.41 qt.

This is for an 8AT transmission
Think I'll hold off until someone can hopefully answer without pointing to the search button.

If that worked for me I wouldn't have started this thread.
__________________
2020 Camaro 2SS A10 | Rebuilt by: CBI Street Cars | 2" SE LT Headers | 3" SE X-Pipe | 3" MBRP Axle-Back | Pri & Sec Cat Deletes | Roto-Fab CAI | LT2 Ported | 95mm ZR1 TB | LSA crankshaft conversion w/modified crank gear | LS1 thrust bearing | Gen V Hinson Plug Wire Set | BTR 220 Stage I Cam | ARP Rod Bolts | Delphi Lifter set | NGK LTR6IX-11 spark plug set | DOD Delete | VVT Limiter | ECM, TCM & E85 | Retuned by: Justin L. | Dyno: 510 rwhp 472 rwtq | Best 1/4 Time: 11.639
FlukeSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2023, 06:35 PM   #5
Chutzpah

 
Chutzpah's Avatar
 
Drives: Wild Cherry LT1
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,977
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlukeSS View Post
So ya, now I get a bunch of different numbers.

8.1 - Mechanic
3.4 - Camaro 6 forums
3.7 - Rock Auto
10 - Trans flush (which is not what I'm getting) - Bill Estes's Chevrolet

and more results from Camaro6 Forum which are not applicable



Think I'll hold off until someone can hopefully answer without pointing to the search button.

If that worked for me I wouldn't have started this thread.

Yep, pretty amazing this information isn’t readily available for the 10L80.

I’m asking a similar type question in the transmission section and not a peep.

I’ll probably just buy a 3 day subscription to AC Delco, copy what I can and move on.
Chutzpah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2023, 06:44 PM   #6
302crossram

 
302crossram's Avatar
 
Drives: 2023 Sharkskin 2SS
Join Date: Oct 2022
Location: NWFL
Posts: 760
3.7 is a drain and fill, not including the converter, cooler, & lines etc
302crossram is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2023, 06:56 PM   #7
Rock-It Man
376 cubic inches of fun
 
Rock-It Man's Avatar
 
Drives: 2023 Camaro ZL1 A10
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: MA
Posts: 4,043
Wow. OP is right. This info used to be in the OM, but not anymore.

So now it's about following the flush and fill procedure in the shop manual. I would have a dealer do it.
Rock-It Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2023, 07:42 AM   #8
FlukeSS

 
FlukeSS's Avatar
 
Drives: 2020 Camaro 2SS A10
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Here
Posts: 1,841
Quote:
Originally Posted by 302crossram View Post
3.7 is a drain and fill, not including the converter, cooler, & lines etc
The whole thing I wanted done is to get the trans filter changed.

Is that a drain and fill?

The mechanic said we aren't supposed to flush the trannies until after like 70k+ miles?

Either way I picked up another 5 qts of trans fluid, giving me a total of 9 qts. JP said his 10 speed took 9 quarts. I don't know if that changes though as I think he has a 10 Speed LT1 with procharger.
__________________
2020 Camaro 2SS A10 | Rebuilt by: CBI Street Cars | 2" SE LT Headers | 3" SE X-Pipe | 3" MBRP Axle-Back | Pri & Sec Cat Deletes | Roto-Fab CAI | LT2 Ported | 95mm ZR1 TB | LSA crankshaft conversion w/modified crank gear | LS1 thrust bearing | Gen V Hinson Plug Wire Set | BTR 220 Stage I Cam | ARP Rod Bolts | Delphi Lifter set | NGK LTR6IX-11 spark plug set | DOD Delete | VVT Limiter | ECM, TCM & E85 | Retuned by: Justin L. | Dyno: 510 rwhp 472 rwtq | Best 1/4 Time: 11.639
FlukeSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2023, 08:21 AM   #9
ember1205
Hot Camaro
 
ember1205's Avatar
 
Drives: '20 2SS Convertible 6MT
Join Date: May 2020
Location: CT
Posts: 3,687
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlukeSS View Post
So ya, now I get a bunch of different numbers.

8.1 - Mechanic
3.4 - Camaro 6 forums
3.7 - Rock Auto
10 - Trans flush (which is not what I'm getting) - Bill Estes's Chevrolet

and more results from Camaro6 Forum which are not applicable



Think I'll hold off until someone can hopefully answer without pointing to the search button.

If that worked for me I wouldn't have started this thread.
Given that the owner's manual says "this process is difficult and should only be done at the dealer" with regard to even -checking- the fluid level, it sounds like you need a service manual to give you details. I know that @arpad_m has a service manual, but he also has an older Camaro and it probably doesn't reference the A10.

I'm not saying this applies here, but my wife's Acura RDX holds about 3.5 quarts of ATF but it requires 10 quarts to do a factory spec'ed fluid change and it's because of the process: Drain, fill, drive 100 miles, drain, fill, drive 100 miles, drain, fill. It's total overkill. Also, the mechanic I use for most stuff (independent) has told me that the service process on transmissions is to exactly measure how much fluid you drain out and replace that amount only. This ensures that the exact proper amount is in the entire system, including the torque converter, since the amount that drains will vary depending on how much is actually in the pan at the time the plug is removed.
ember1205 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2023, 08:29 AM   #10
FlukeSS

 
FlukeSS's Avatar
 
Drives: 2020 Camaro 2SS A10
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Here
Posts: 1,841
Quote:
Originally Posted by ember1205 View Post
Given that the owner's manual says "this process is difficult and should only be done at the dealer" with regard to even -checking- the fluid level, it sounds like you need a service manual to give you details. I know that @arpad_m has a service manual, but he also has an older Camaro and it probably doesn't reference the A10.

I'm not saying this applies here, but my wife's Acura RDX holds about 3.5 quarts of ATF but it requires 10 quarts to do a factory spec'ed fluid change and it's because of the process: Drain, fill, drive 100 miles, drain, fill, drive 100 miles, drain, fill. It's total overkill. Also, the mechanic I use for most stuff (independent) has told me that the service process on transmissions is to exactly measure how much fluid you drain out and replace that amount only. This ensures that the exact proper amount is in the entire system, including the torque converter, since the amount that drains will vary depending on how much is actually in the pan at the time the plug is removed.
Ya my mechanic, the device they use to drain failed, so he was going to get it fixed before doing the work on my car.

But yes they have to measure exactly how much to pull out, there's not dipstick of sorts to check.

His computer system was saying 8.1 qts, I do have 9 qts of the trans fluid though. If some of it doesn't get used no big deal to me.
__________________
2020 Camaro 2SS A10 | Rebuilt by: CBI Street Cars | 2" SE LT Headers | 3" SE X-Pipe | 3" MBRP Axle-Back | Pri & Sec Cat Deletes | Roto-Fab CAI | LT2 Ported | 95mm ZR1 TB | LSA crankshaft conversion w/modified crank gear | LS1 thrust bearing | Gen V Hinson Plug Wire Set | BTR 220 Stage I Cam | ARP Rod Bolts | Delphi Lifter set | NGK LTR6IX-11 spark plug set | DOD Delete | VVT Limiter | ECM, TCM & E85 | Retuned by: Justin L. | Dyno: 510 rwhp 472 rwtq | Best 1/4 Time: 11.639
FlukeSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2023, 03:11 PM   #11
johnd5412
 
Drives: 2020 LT1 convertible
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Earth
Posts: 12
took me a while to find the fill plug on the A10 transmission as mine has a noise reduction cover. Plus the standard allen wrenches won't fit in the tight space to remove the plug and vacuum the oil out of the pan. I have almost 30K on my car and my intent is to replace the filter and only the oil that I drain from the pan. i bought some snub allen wrenches and hopefully that will work. If not, I have no idea (other than dropping the pan and spilling oil) how to remove the plug. Such a crap design.
johnd5412 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2023, 03:41 PM   #12
ember1205
Hot Camaro
 
ember1205's Avatar
 
Drives: '20 2SS Convertible 6MT
Join Date: May 2020
Location: CT
Posts: 3,687
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlukeSS View Post
Ya my mechanic, the device they use to drain failed, so he was going to get it fixed before doing the work on my car.

But yes they have to measure exactly how much to pull out, there's not dipstick of sorts to check.

His computer system was saying 8.1 qts, I do have 9 qts of the trans fluid though. If some of it doesn't get used no big deal to me.
This could all be related to why you're getting different answers. One is capacity while the others are how much fluid is used for -their- services.
ember1205 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2023, 05:32 PM   #13
Chutzpah

 
Chutzpah's Avatar
 
Drives: Wild Cherry LT1
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,977
FYI
Attached Images
 
Chutzpah is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Post Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:02 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.