[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by JSH

The 1LE is overall so much quicker than the Zl1 that the haters are left to grope around for some metric to point at in an attempt to diminish our car's superiority. ZOH6, who's on my ignore list so I can't see his posts, is one of the loudest haters (so please don't quote him). And of course, he's probably never owned either car.

You got me, I own a Toyota Camry. You are wise beyond your years.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by KILLA BEE

Agreed

Good company right there.

[wnta1ss]

Originally Posted by KILLA BEE

Doubt it run it and see

Stephen12ZL1 definitely made the right guess about the 1/2 mile. The ZLE that I linked ran 141 in the 1/2, and the normal ZL1 that I linked ran 150 at the 1/2, so obviously, the aerodynamic difference between the 2 is already showing up when the ZLE loses by that much.

[KILLA BEE]

Originally Posted by wnta1ss

Stephen12ZL1 definitely made the right guess about the 1/2 mile. The ZLE that I linked ran 141 in the 1/2, and the normal ZL1 that I linked ran 150 at the 1/2, so obviously, the aerodynamic difference between the 2 is already showing up when the ZLE loses by that much.

Yes as I stated In the LONGER RUNS!! not the 1/4 or 1/8 trust me, the manual regular Zs hate my A10 on those

[KILLA BEE]

Originally Posted by Stephen12ZL1

I have a '21 ZL1-1LE which is stock. The only mod is flex fuel sensor and appropriate Jannetty tune for the flex fuel...running 47%E. I am a road course guy but my friend rented MIR dragstrip so I said, "what the hell...why not?".

The DA was +250ft and Maryland is known to be a fast track. Unfortunately, I only had two runs and the first was the best. Rain caused the lack of runs. This thing was ridiculously rapid considering my previous '17 ZL1 in near 0ft DA ran 11.003@129. I used my buds 285/35-19 M/T drag radials on CTS-V wheels. Slips posted below:

Gotta a YouTube?

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by KILLA BEE

Yes as I stated In the LONGER RUNS!! not the 1/4 or 1/8 trust me, the manual regular Zs hate my A10 on those

Of course a manual ZL1 is going to lose to an A10 ZL1. That's a given. Changes nothing about the 1LE aero having an impact in the 1/4 which has already been proven multiple times.

[JSH]

I'll probably outrun every ZL1 I race up here this year.

[GreenZLE]

Originally Posted by JSH

I'll probably outrun every ZL1 I race up here this year.

LOL! I was just thinking the same thing regarding stock for stock races!

I dont disagree that the 1LE aero has an impact but its VERY minimal in the 1/4. Same can be said for the STOCK suspension between two STOCK cars. I've cut 1.69's with my car and average 1.75's with Toyo 888R's and a best of 11.2 with an average of 11.3-11.4 in the 1/4 mile. My MPH is 124 consistently with some 125's. I'm 250lbs so I'm sure giving up some cheeseburgers would only make me faster!

Every STOCK ZL1 ran nearly the same times as I did as in within a 10th of a sec. unless they messed up the launch and ran 12.2's. I ran one guy at Gateway who had drag slicks on the back while I was on Toyo 888R's and I got out 1/2 car out at the tree and we stayed that way nearly all the way down the track. At about 900 to the end, he gained about half that back. I think there might have been 1mph, if that, difference between us on the board.


Stock ZL1 vs ZL1-1LE is a drivers race in 1/4 mile.

[KILLA BEE]

Originally Posted by GreenZLE

LOL! I was just thinking the same thing regarding stock for stock races!

I dont disagree that the 1LE aero has an impact but its VERY minimal in the 1/4. Same can be said for the STOCK suspension between two STOCK cars. I've cut 1.69's with my car and average 1.75's with Toyo 888R's and a best of 11.2 with an average of 11.3-11.4 in the 1/4 mile. My MPH is 124 consistently with some 125's. I'm 250lbs so I'm sure giving up some cheeseburgers would only make me faster!

Every STOCK ZL1 ran nearly the same times as I did as in within a 10th of a sec. unless they messed up the launch and ran 12.2's. I ran one guy at Gateway who had drag slicks on the back while I was on Toyo 888R's and I got out 1/2 car out at the tree and we stayed that way nearly all the way down the track. At about 900 to the end, he gained about half that back. I think there might have been 1mph, if that, difference between us on the board.


Stock ZL1 vs ZL1-1LE is a drivers race in 1/4 mile.

Exactly! In the 1/4 it don’t matter ESPECIALLY IN THE A10 and yes them Toyos are crazy I have 345s

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by KILLA BEE

Exactly! In the 1/4 it don’t matter ESPECIALLY IN THE A10 and yes them Toyos are crazy I have 345s

Every tenth matters to some people. Its 1 tenth or so on a stock ZL1 1LE, its more on a modified 1LE.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by KILLA BEE

Exactly! In the 1/4 it don’t matter ESPECIALLY IN THE A10 and yes them Toyos are crazy I have 345s

I'm considering whether to go to the Toyo are r888r in a 345. What is your power level?

[ZL1Atlanta]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

Every tenth matters to some people. Its 1 tenth or so on a stock ZL1 1LE, its more on a modified 1LE.

That is correct. If you are really serious about drag racing, you can spend thousands of dollars to lose one tenth, and the faster you get, the more it costs and the more you have to do to shave that time off.

Keep in mind, GM has no wing on the COPO's, the car they built just for the purpose of drag racing. More important than the wing, is likely the DSSV suspension and its inability to transfer weight as good as the mag ride in the cushy "tour" mode.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by ZL1Atlanta

That is correct. If you are really serious about drag racing, you can spend thousands of dollars to lose one tenth, and the faster you get, the more it costs and the more you have to do to shave that time off.

Keep in mind, GM has no wing on the COPO's, the car they built just for the purpose of drag racing. More important than the wing, is likely the DSSV suspension and its inability to transfer weight as good as the mag ride in the cushy "tour" mode.

Yep, there's no free lunch, you can't buy a 1LE which is designed for road racing and expect it to perform as well as the standard ZL1 at a drag strip, compromises are made to optimize road course performance.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by ZL1Atlanta

More important than the wing, is likely the DSSV suspension and its inability to transfer weight as good as the mag ride in the cushy "tour" mode.

You and I have kicked the ZL1 v. 1LE topic around numerous times. No matter how many times I think about it, the argument that the ZL1 is the better drag race car makes little practical sense, and is only relevant for bone stock cars, and cars setup exactly the same.

Off the showroom floor they are essentially the same, 11.5. I do not know of a comparison of two cars with the same build racing each other. In fact, they probably don't exist.

As I said above, I doubt I will lose a heads-up race to a Gen 6 ZL1 up here this season. Does that mean the 1LE is a better drag car? No, it simply means I have more power.

Although I can't support it, I would concede that in a 1/2 mile race between bone stock cars, the ZL1 should be a bit quicker, but no one races 1/2 mile.