Purchase of a ZL1

taks32 · 03-20-2023, 10:40 AM

After spending considerable time coordinating the purchase and shipping of a 2023 ZL1, I received the following message:

I spoke with management, unfortunately I would have to be 10k over MSRP on this specific unit.

Steven Lord
Internet Sales
Blasius Chevrolet Cadillac
90 Scott Rd Waterbury, CT 06705
(203) 753-9261 Ext.331
https://www.blasiuschevrolet.com
http://www.blasiuscadillac.com

taks32 · 03-20-2023, 12:00 PM

What the law says about unfair sales practices
Depending on the circumstances, auto dealers may not just be upsetting their customers by raising their prices; they may actually be breaking the law. Connecticut spells out the rules for fair sales and business practices in Title 42. According to the law:

“Whenever any commodity or service is sold, or is offered, exposed or advertised for sale […] the price shall not be misrepresented, nor shall the price be represented in any manner calculated or tending to mislead or deceive an actual or prospective purchaser.”

Notably, this doesn’t mean that dealers cannot sell above the manufacturer’s suggested retail price (MSRP). However, it does mean that if a dealer has advertised a car at a certain price, they are not allowed to raise the price to the buyer.

Finally, the rules for private sales don’t have the same restrictions as those for dealer sales. If you work with a private seller, you don’t have the same protections.

NYS2 · 03-20-2023, 12:05 PM

So you’re getting it for the original set price?

WhiteMale · 03-20-2023, 12:09 PM

I got laid out $5K when my order was actually going to get an allocation and got it @ $1500 but I woulda walked over more than that.
When I had a 21 ZL1 on order I had a written deal in hand when it was at 1100 but who knows how that woulda actually played itself out.
Counter offer and walk if you can't live with it.

JBones81 · 03-20-2023, 01:04 PM

contact chevrolet customer service directly and report your experience, or at least threaten this dealer that you are going to

LeonardS · 03-20-2023, 01:38 PM

Just walk away and locate another dealer. Pissing off the dealer is going to give you more heartburn than it will them.

RobZL1 · 03-20-2023, 01:53 PM

Agreed. Go with one of the big Corvette and Camaro dealerships nationally and you won't have to deal with this nonsense.

Idaho2018GTPremium · 03-20-2023, 02:00 PM

I take it you didn't get a written price beforehand? When I bought my '21 ZL1 and my '22 Supra I made sure to have signed price agreements before the car even was made (or in my Supra's case, before it was shipped from Europe). Lesson learned for use at the next dealer if this one won't honor a price they previously told you.

WhiteMale · 03-20-2023, 02:19 PM

I thought I had MSRP then the guy died and everything changed at least to how I understood things to be or were going to be but that was on me. When I had a 21 on order locally I had a deal signed and in hand but never got to see how that was going to play itself out. I failed to do that with the 22 I had on order and then this 23.

I would have walked if they didn't take my $1500 offer.

SSFury · 03-20-2023, 03:23 PM

I tried ordering my Z at a dealership in Phoenix as it is much bigger with better options than Tucson where I'm from. They told me straight up that they charge $10K over sticker price, just for the priveledge of buying the car. I rolled the dice, and walked away. Im not going to pay $82K for a $72K car.

Came back to Tucson, put up my $1K Downpayment to order, and crossed my fingers and waited. Took 3 months, but I got my allocation and my car was built. I just got it last week. The longer you wait to order, the less your odds of getting it. We're up against a timetable with these cars.

Streetrod782 · 03-20-2023, 04:31 PM

Donohoo Chevy never charges over MSRP and I was able to actually get it for $600 below MSRP. 2023 ZL1. They usually have allocations as well.

Greg83 · 03-20-2023, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taks32

After spending considerable time coordinating the purchase and shipping of a 2023 ZL1, I received the following message:

I spoke with management, unfortunately I would have to be 10k over MSRP on this specific unit.

Steven Lord
Internet Sales
Blasius Chevrolet Cadillac
90 Scott Rd Waterbury, CT 06705
(203) 753-9261 Ext.331
https://www.blasiuschevrolet.com
http://www.blasiuscadillac.com

I searched around on autotrader and was able to find a dealer in Ohio that was willing to sell at MSRP and then found one on here in Illinois that another forum member wasn’t able to pick up after he ordered… They matched my MSRP deal and I got $1750 in rebates.

FarmerFran · 03-20-2023, 05:22 PM

I got mine for a good bit less than MSRP. Nuts to pay over. I admittedly paid more than I would have earlier, but still less than MSRP, 2 weeks ago.

Kevin0311 · 03-20-2023, 05:48 PM

now we know why they have a handfull of C8's a C8 ZO6 and couple ZL1's in stock. several dealers in the northeast still are trying for above msrp, just got a silverado a few months ago every one i found in NE was at or above msrp and NO ONE was accepting GMS pricing, found one in Michigan that was below msrp and accepted GMS.
Point is keep looking deals are able to be found just be willing to travel or ship car. I put a deposit on truck once price was agreed apon, worked out payment/pickup details after deal locked in.

03-20-2023, 10:40 AM	#1
taks32 Drives: 2023 Camaro 2SS 1LE Join Date: Dec 2022 Location: Texas Posts: 2	Purchase of a ZL1 After spending considerable time coordinating the purchase and shipping of a 2023 ZL1, I received the following message: I spoke with management, unfortunately I would have to be 10k over MSRP on this specific unit. Steven Lord Internet Sales Blasius Chevrolet Cadillac 90 Scott Rd Waterbury, CT 06705 (203) 753-9261 Ext.331 https://www.blasiuschevrolet.com http://www.blasiuscadillac.com

03-20-2023, 12:00 PM	#2
taks32 Drives: 2023 Camaro 2SS 1LE Join Date: Dec 2022 Location: Texas Posts: 2	checked the Law regarding raising price.... What the law says about unfair sales practices Depending on the circumstances, auto dealers may not just be upsetting their customers by raising their prices; they may actually be breaking the law. Connecticut spells out the rules for fair sales and business practices in Title 42. According to the law: “Whenever any commodity or service is sold, or is offered, exposed or advertised for sale […] the price shall not be misrepresented, nor shall the price be represented in any manner calculated or tending to mislead or deceive an actual or prospective purchaser.” Notably, this doesn’t mean that dealers cannot sell above the manufacturer’s suggested retail price (MSRP). However, it does mean that if a dealer has advertised a car at a certain price, they are not allowed to raise the price to the buyer. Finally, the rules for private sales don’t have the same restrictions as those for dealer sales. If you work with a private seller, you don’t have the same protections.

03-20-2023, 01:04 PM	#5
JBones81 Drives: 22 ZL1, 18 RS3, 22 M3P Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Walnut Creek, CA Posts: 946 View My Garage	contact chevrolet customer service directly and report your experience, or at least threaten this dealer that you are going to __________________ 2022 ZL1 - M6, Wrapped, Tinted, Rotofab intake, MBRP AxleBack, Lots of BMR rear suspension components 2024 Audi RS3 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance 2018 Audi RS3 - Many mods & e85 Instagram - @JBsCars

03-20-2023, 01:38 PM	#6
LeonardS Drives: 1969 Z28,1992 Z28,1994 Z28,1999 SS Join Date: Oct 2021 Location: Jamestown, ND Posts: 1,154	Just walk away and locate another dealer. Pissing off the dealer is going to give you more heartburn than it will them. __________________ 24 2SS 1LE, Riptide Blue, A10, PDR. Picked up 11/5/23, 560 miles. 23 ZLE Rapid Blue, M6. 6/27/22 TPW. Off assembly line on July 12th, 2022. To Dealer August 6th. Delivered August 8th. 129 miles. 99 SS Vert, Hugger Orange, A4, 806 miles 94 Z28, Black, M6, 595 miles 92 Z28, last car built at Van Nuys Plant, Red, A4, 125 miles www.last1992camaro.com 69 Z28, Dusk Blue, M4 29 Ford Business Coupe 28 Ford Pickup 24 GMC Denali 2500HD CCSB 4x4 22 Jeep Grand Cherokee 13 Ford F150 Crew Cab 4x4

03-20-2023, 01:53 PM	#7
RobZL1 fo'shizZL1 Drives: 2017 ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: ATL Posts: 1,849	Agreed. Go with one of the big Corvette and Camaro dealerships nationally and you won't have to deal with this nonsense. __________________ 2017 ZL1 M6 Black \| Maggie 2650 // 103TB // Big Gulp // CSP LT's & Ultra Cats // BMR MM // BC Forged KL13 Mods being installed- oil pump, cam, ported heads, dual in-tank, Goliath and XDI, corn, etc., etc.

03-20-2023, 12:05 PM	#3
NYS2 Drives: 20 Crush 2SS/1LE Volvo XC90 Join Date: May 2022 Location: NY Posts: 84	So you’re getting it for the original set price?

03-20-2023, 12:09 PM	#4
WhiteMale Drives: 23 ZL1 A10 Rapid Blue Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: MO Posts: 2,260	I got laid out $5K when my order was actually going to get an allocation and got it @ $1500 but I woulda walked over more than that. When I had a 21 ZL1 on order I had a written deal in hand when it was at 1100 but who knows how that woulda actually played itself out. Counter offer and walk if you can't live with it.

03-20-2023, 02:00 PM	#8
Idaho2018GTPremium Drives: 2021 Camaro ZL1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Idaho Posts: 1,240	I take it you didn't get a written price beforehand? When I bought my '21 ZL1 and my '22 Supra I made sure to have signed price agreements before the car even was made (or in my Supra's case, before it was shipped from Europe). Lesson learned for use at the next dealer if this one won't honor a price they previously told you. __________________ 2021 Camaro ZL1 A10 2022 GR Supra 3.0 Past: 2018 Mustang GT Premium w/ PP1, MR, and A10 2007 MazdaSpeed3 1995 Pontiac Trans Am 1987 Camaro Z28

03-20-2023, 02:19 PM	#9
WhiteMale Drives: 23 ZL1 A10 Rapid Blue Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: MO Posts: 2,260	I thought I had MSRP then the guy died and everything changed at least to how I understood things to be or were going to be but that was on me. When I had a 21 on order locally I had a deal signed and in hand but never got to see how that was going to play itself out. I failed to do that with the 22 I had on order and then this 23. I would have walked if they didn't take my $1500 offer.

03-20-2023, 03:23 PM	#10
SSFury My Road Rage is Legendary Drives: 2011 IOM 2SS/RS "Fury" Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Sahuarita AZ Posts: 744 View My Garage	I tried ordering my Z at a dealership in Phoenix as it is much bigger with better options than Tucson where I'm from. They told me straight up that they charge $10K over sticker price, just for the priveledge of buying the car. I rolled the dice, and walked away. Im not going to pay $82K for a $72K car. Came back to Tucson, put up my $1K Downpayment to order, and crossed my fingers and waited. Took 3 months, but I got my allocation and my car was built. I just got it last week. The longer you wait to order, the less your odds of getting it. We're up against a timetable with these cars. __________________ Every Time You Buckle Up In That Car, Tonight Might Be The Night That You Die.

03-20-2023, 04:31 PM	#11
Streetrod782 Drives: 2023 ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2023 Location: TN Posts: 47	Donohoo Chevy never charges over MSRP and I was able to actually get it for $600 below MSRP. 2023 ZL1. They usually have allocations as well.

03-20-2023, 05:22 PM	#13
FarmerFran Drives: 2023 ZL1 Vert M6 "Sharky" Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Earth Posts: 4,591	I got mine for a good bit less than MSRP. Nuts to pay over. I admittedly paid more than I would have earlier, but still less than MSRP, 2 weeks ago. __________________ <Insert Cars You Own Here>

03-20-2023, 05:48 PM	#14
Kevin0311 Drives: Chevy ss sedan, 22 ZL1 vert Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 88	now we know why they have a handfull of C8's a C8 ZO6 and couple ZL1's in stock. several dealers in the northeast still are trying for above msrp, just got a silverado a few months ago every one i found in NE was at or above msrp and NO ONE was accepting GMS pricing, found one in Michigan that was below msrp and accepted GMS. Point is keep looking deals are able to be found just be willing to travel or ship car. I put a deposit on truck once price was agreed apon, worked out payment/pickup details after deal locked in.

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