[Jsreo]

I did read the entire article and several others that provide basically the same information.

I purposefully did not attempt to add any opinion on causation and just presented the entire article that includes facts on which states receive more federal dollars than they receive.

The ranking is solely based on tax dollars contributed vs. tax dollars received and nothing else

Although it seems logical that states that are populated with poorer & less educated people would be dependent on more affluent states

[Aragorn]

Originally Posted by jamala00

You first... Lead by example.

If needed, I wouldn’t have an issue, nor get on a camaro forum and rant about it.

[Aragorn]

Originally Posted by Devstrike

I am happier in a Red state than a blue state and I grew up in a blue state. The stuff said about insects I know is a joke but if they actually tried that I couldn't imagine the riots that wound happen.

Maybe, but I don’t think anyone would be forced to eat insects. Just saying.

[Aragorn]

Originally Posted by keep_hope_alive

Give up your cars and you can't own them. You must rent them from us. Give up your farming, just eat the bugs we give you. Give up your comfort, just let us decide what temperature your house should be. Stalin would approve.

All great reasons why we should just let blue states make those decisions and live the way they want and then let red states do what they want. Just don't make red states pay for the decisions blue states make.

Exaggeration - check
Fear mongering - check.

[bigd1276]

Tree hugger - check

[raptor5244]

You can't make this sh!t up.




https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news...ategory=foryou

[Wyzz Kydd]

I just saw the same headline. Looks like you're going to be hot in some parts of California for a while and not charging your car when you get off work, if you love the environment. Personally I like to keep my thermostat on 73 or 74. 78 is a bit too hot for me.

Don't expect that 'minor glitch' to make a difference. It's a feature, not a bug.

[Junction65]

"The top three conservation actions are to set thermostats to 78 degrees or higher, avoid using large appliances and charging electric vehicles, and turn off unnecessary lights."

Excessive heat starting tomorrow will stress energy grid. Consumer conservation likely needed this weekend to avert power outages

[90503]

The EV charging is a relatively new wrinkle in the conservation formula.

The whole system is weak and near broken. It's good to not be wasteful, but that is all voluntary. No matter what, you can pay up and never conserve, until they shut off the grid in your area. Highest electricity costs are between 4 and 9 pm. These are the hours they request the most voluntary reductions in usage, including EVs. We have gotten well used to this routine and billing system anyhow.

In defense of EV charging, I believe they included it only because it is one of the usages that consumers can voluntarily control what times of day they charge. It's not ideal. I think we should be looking at providing cheap affordable energy around the clock, rather than continually managing shortages and outages of electricity.

We've had heat spells before, transformers blow up (especially when they can't cool down enough at night). No matter, either way if not enough volunteer to conserve, they will throw the switch...lol

I enjoy criticizing EVs as much as the next guy, but all they need to do (for now) is charge up at a more grid-friendly time.

[ChevyRules]

Originally Posted by 90503

I enjoy criticizing EVs as much as the next guy, but all they need to do (for now) is charge up at a more grid-friendly time.

With the exception for road trippers going to fast chargers, this just needs education. You can program the car to charge at 1 am for example. You can tell the car when off peak hours are and only charge at those times. So when you plug in at home, the car won't charge until that programmed time.

For instance, my moms Y is set to charge at 11 PM and mine is scheduled to charge at 3:30 am.

This should be an easy sell for people because it has a money saving aspect to it. So they will want to charge when it is the cheapest.

[Junction65]

The list continues to grow...

All you need to do is buy a new EV under warranty to observe a lower TCO
All you need to do is install a charger in your home
All you need to do is charge up at a more grid-friendly time
All you need to do is plan trips around charging stations
All you need to do is drop your trailer before using a charging station
All you need to do is educate yourself on all you need to do
All you need to do is obey and consume

[genxer]

I read that CA will allow so many Volt-style plug in sales. Might work ok for single vehicle people.

I could respect a Cali fella with an I-Miev in the toolbox and a good generator, and otherwise keeps the cars they want.

[90503]

Originally Posted by Junction65

The list continues to grow...

All you need to do is buy a new EV under warranty to observe a lower TCO
All you need to do is install a charger in your home
All you need to do is charge up at a more grid-friendly time
All you need to do is plan trips around charging stations
All you need to do is drop your trailer before using a charging station
All you need to do is educate yourself on all you need to do
All you need to do is obey and consume

I agree. It's all fun and games and a novelty for now. Once it's the only game in town, your options will be well managed, like it or not.

I would also look at the subtle creep of "Well, you don't really need to tow that much or that often, or at all"..."You really don't need that much range anyhow"...etc..."You can probably just use public transportation or share ownership to do what you need..." Once the options of freedom of travel and types of transportation are restricted or removed under the rationale of "you don't really need to do that anyway", we will miss the good old days for sure...

[genxer]

I skimmed a puff piece article about a kid getting a college grant for testing a reluctance motor idea or ideas. Then I saw this search link: https://www.electricmotorengineering...tric-vehicles/

I don't think that style motor would ever be choice for performance, it would fit the appliance mold as a cost reducer.

The torque vs rpm, w/efficiency graph was the interesting part for me, as a general way to see electric motors.

Since Raptor made a post about the Tesla 3's strong passing power form 30-60... They would need more gears to pull hard above that. The best motor effieciency would expect to show at highway speed, if it's not 'oversized' for power, but in the low gear.