Short throw Hurst shifter

MartinLe · 07-29-2022, 07:28 PM

Any you fellas have any thoughts on the HURST BILLET/PLUS PISTOL GRIP SHORT THROW SHIFTER?

https://www.holley.com/products/driv.../parts/3916131

Looks pretty cool and 40% reduction in throw sounds appealing.

PMCamaro · 07-29-2022, 08:46 PM

In my list. Son has one in V-Cad. Like old school white ball. Not a easy install.

PowerDemon · 07-30-2022, 08:49 AM

I like the idea of a shorter throw but the instal looks like a PITA.

Booher · 07-30-2022, 10:26 AM

I always wanted one but that install though!

ST1LE · 07-30-2022, 10:29 AM

All I have heard about it is how hard it is to install.

What the process, drop the transmission or something?

s346k · 07-30-2022, 10:42 AM

does the ZL1 come with the ss 1LE/gm performance shifter? if so, imho - don't. the hurst setup is a little stiffer but otherwise a complete waste of time.

MartinLe · 07-30-2022, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PMCamaro

In my list. Son has one in V-Cad. Like old school white ball. Not a easy install.

Do you know if it actually shortens the throw? At least one member here believes the stock shifter has the same throw.

LT4Greg · 07-30-2022, 02:45 PM

The shifter in the ZL1 has shorter throws than the SS and feels better to me. The Hurst shifter looks good with the white ball, which I had one in my 2010 SS but was a lot easier to install than the 6th gen. That’s the main reason I haven’t bought one yet. You have to take the driveshaft out or loose, pull the exhaust system out of the way and drop the trans to install the Hurst one.

CW3SF · 07-30-2022, 03:12 PM

I actually like the throw and the shift of the oem in the ZL1 M6. I wouldn’t even consider it unless I was already doing a clutch or pulling the trans for some other reason.

MartinLe · 07-30-2022, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LT4Greg

The shifter in the ZL1 has shorter throws than the SS and feels better to me. The Hurst shifter looks good with the white ball, which I had one in my 2010 SS but was a lot easier to install than the 6th gen. That’s the main reason I haven’t bought one yet. You have to take the driveshaft out or loose, pull the exhaust system out of the way and drop the trans to install the Hurst one.

I haven't measured the stock throw, but it sure feels long. Anything that might shorten it can't be bad. Anyhow, this knob is the black aluminum pistol grip and it looks cool. And as far as installing it, some of the work I've done on the car was way more involved than this.

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Originally Posted by CW3SF

I actually like the throw and the shift of the oem in the ZL1 M6. I wouldn’t even consider it unless I was already doing a clutch or pulling the trans for some other reason.

I'm not complaining about the stock throw and I have no problem with it. The install is no more or less involved than other stuff you and I have done to our cars. And as I stated above, it is pretty cool looking. One guy stated that he thought there might already be a GM flavor performance shifter already installed. If this is what GM calls a "performance shifter", it leaves some to be desired. This shifter claims a 40% reduction in throw. Doesn't that sound even just a little enticing?

Booher · 07-30-2022, 11:23 PM

I believe gm's shortened throw is only a 6% reduction, making hurst 34% shorter than chevys. Stock it feels great, but I'm sure it could be better.

JBones81 · 07-31-2022, 12:43 AM

Looks great, but after spending an hour in the garage today and not even being able to swap out the stock rear reflectors for smoked ones, I can't imagine trying to tackle that install. Either I'm just getting older and lazier, or cars are getting harder to work on.

CW3SF · 07-31-2022, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinLe

I haven't measured the stock throw, but it sure feels long. Anything that might shorten it can't be bad. Anyhow, this knob is the black aluminum pistol grip and it looks cool. And as far as installing it, some of the work I've done on the car was way more involved than this.

I'm not complaining about the stock throw and I have no problem with it. The install is no more or less involved than other stuff you and I have done to our cars. And as I stated above, it is pretty cool looking. One guy stated that he thought there might already be a GM flavor performance shifter already installed. If this is what GM calls a "performance shifter", it leaves some to be desired. This shifter claims a 40% reduction in throw. Doesn't that sound even just a little enticing?

That’s just my opinion. The stock shifter is so good (to me) that I won’t drop the trans just to replace it. As I mentioned, if I’m pulling the trans already for a clutch then I’d think about it.

zig_zag · 07-31-2022, 08:03 AM

Where can I find a ball replacement for my stock shifter ...? Or is there one ...? Or can it be done ...?

07-29-2022, 07:28 PM	#1
MartinLe Drives: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 M6 Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: OR Posts: 479	Short throw Hurst shifter Any you fellas have any thoughts on the HURST BILLET/PLUS PISTOL GRIP SHORT THROW SHIFTER? https://www.holley.com/products/driv.../parts/3916131 Looks pretty cool and 40% reduction in throw sounds appealing. __________________ JRE Terminator Rough Idle Cam Magnuson 2650 - 15% lower, 90mm upper FIC+30% DSX Flex fuel/Low side NW 103mm TB/Roto-Fab CAI Monster S Series Elite E2-X 2" TSP LT's BMR:BK063, BK060,TCA061, UTCA060, UTCA063 Weld Beadlocks/17" NT5R2

07-29-2022, 08:46 PM	#2
PMCamaro Drives: 22 ZL1 Join Date: May 2022 Location: Alabama Posts: 46	In my list. Son has one in V-Cad. Like old school white ball. Not a easy install. __________________ 2022 ZL1 M6

07-30-2022, 08:49 AM	#3
PowerDemon Drives: Camaro ZL1, Golf R Join Date: Feb 2022 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 226	I like the idea of a shorter throw but the instal looks like a PITA. __________________ ’22 ZL1 Riverside Blue 6MT ’17 Golf R Limestone Grey DSG

07-30-2022, 10:29 AM	#5
ST1LE Drives: E92 BMW M3 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 4,496	All I have heard about it is how hard it is to install. What the process, drop the transmission or something? __________________ SOLD - 2013 1LE - Pat G Spec'd Cam, NPP with 1 7/8" Long Tube Headers with High Flow Cats, Intake w/scoop, Ported Throttle Body, and Apex 1.25" Lowering Springs. J-Rod Built and Matt@FSP Tuned

07-30-2022, 10:42 AM	#6
s346k Drives: like an old lady Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: indiana Posts: 2,485	does the ZL1 come with the ss 1LE/gm performance shifter? if so, imho - don't. the hurst setup is a little stiffer but otherwise a complete waste of time. __________________ 2016+ camaro: everyone’s first car

07-30-2022, 10:26 AM	#4
Booher Drives: 2019 zl1 6 speed Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Lake Havasu Arizona Posts: 1,135	I always wanted one but that install though!

07-30-2022, 02:45 PM	#8
LT4Greg Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Coupe Join Date: May 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,875	The shifter in the ZL1 has shorter throws than the SS and feels better to me. The Hurst shifter looks good with the white ball, which I had one in my 2010 SS but was a lot easier to install than the 6th gen. That’s the main reason I haven’t bought one yet. You have to take the driveshaft out or loose, pull the exhaust system out of the way and drop the trans to install the Hurst one. __________________ ZL1 Coupe, PDR, Exposed carbon fiber hood insert, My Link with Nav, M6 6 speed and Silver Ice Metallic. Mods done: ceramic window tint, GM Accessories Camaro floor mats and Roto-Fab CAI.

07-30-2022, 03:12 PM	#9
CW3SF Drives: 2019 Chevy Camaro ZL1 M6 Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Sea level Posts: 1,276 View My Garage	I actually like the throw and the shift of the oem in the ZL1 M6. I wouldn’t even consider it unless I was already doing a clutch or pulling the trans for some other reason.

07-30-2022, 11:23 PM	#11
Booher Drives: 2019 zl1 6 speed Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Lake Havasu Arizona Posts: 1,135	I believe gm's shortened throw is only a 6% reduction, making hurst 34% shorter than chevys. Stock it feels great, but I'm sure it could be better.

07-31-2022, 12:43 AM	#12
JBones81 Drives: 22 ZL1, 18 RS3, 22 M3P Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Walnut Creek, CA Posts: 946 View My Garage	Looks great, but after spending an hour in the garage today and not even being able to swap out the stock rear reflectors for smoked ones, I can't imagine trying to tackle that install. Either I'm just getting older and lazier, or cars are getting harder to work on. __________________ 2022 ZL1 - M6, Wrapped, Tinted, Rotofab intake, MBRP AxleBack, Lots of BMR rear suspension components 2024 Audi RS3 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance 2018 Audi RS3 - Many mods & e85 Instagram - @JBsCars

07-31-2022, 08:03 AM	#14
zig_zag 2SS ickle Drives: 2022 ZL1 1LE, 2022 2SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2022 Location: Triad area, NC Posts: 104	Where can I find a ball replacement for my stock shifter ...? Or is there one ...? Or can it be done ...? __________________ 2022 2SS 1LE / Vivid Orange A10 (delivered 10/08/22) 2022 Lexus ES350 F Perf, white/red/black leather 2022 F150 Lariat Sport Rapid Red 2022 ZL1 black/black, MT, (SOLD) 2023 C8 Corvette, 2LT / Amplify Orange, Z51(SOLD) **********

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