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It’s reassuring to know that it takes a biologist to define what a woman is but everyone and their brother is just certain about global warming. It’s settled science, lol. |
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05-21-2022, 05:46 AM | #579 |
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The most revealing thing on this thread is the consistent personal attacks and mocking from the left. It’s how they operate. No reasoned discourse, just snark from people who think they’re smarter than everyone else.
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05-21-2022, 06:49 AM | #580 |
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Think this thread has run its course if it has devolved into typical right vs left remarks....
Especially since you know this site doesn't allow politics...... I believe we should be mature enough to be able to discuss EV's without getting political...... |
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you would think so,but it does get in there.talking straight up mechanics of the two is pretty easy without involving politics,but then the situation gets complicated.much as i think an electrified 6th gen camaro would be cool my 5th gen only has 75k miles on it.i am retired and replacing such a nice car with low miles on it is not really economically feasible for me.
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05-21-2022, 07:21 AM | #582 | |
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As I said in an earlier comment, I should be able to mention I enjoyed visiting XXX place without the other person I am talking to going straight to a political statement about XXX place. I am getting sick of it. |
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05-21-2022, 07:37 AM | #583 |
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i can understand that.it seems that almost anything a person says these days can be taken out of context,or stretched to mean something that was not intended by an opposing viewpoint.i am the guy that sees a tesla and thinks..."how neat,i wonder what driving one would be like?" but its not practical for me at this point in time.
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05-21-2022, 07:47 AM | #584 |
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This isn't even a thread anymore, because a number of posts were selectively deleted and they weren't fully political, or at least some points worth considering were made.
As to visiting place x without drawing unwanted political commentary, it's very sad indeed, I wish this weren't the case and I myself do try not to derail conversations this way. On the other hand, not talking about pressing issues first and then doing something about them is untenable, no matter the forum. It's a bit like when you want to discuss crown moldings and ornaments while a house is burning and then being disappointed that the other person just keeps trying to address the ongoing fire.
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The big issue here is that cars like the ones we drive and talk about on this forum probably won’t make it to 2030. So find the one you love now. Cherish it and drive it until the day that you can’t drive anymore. When it comes to vehicles in operation we’ll be well on the other side of 2050 before there are as many BEVs on the road as ICE, so fuel and service support for ICE vehicles will continue, just at reduced levels. We can still find service support for manual transmission vehicles even though they are well below 10% of the vehicles on the road today. Similar situation for ICE vehicles for at least the next 4 or 5 decades, maybe longer.
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05-21-2022, 09:47 AM | #586 | |
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As much as my posts appear to reflect negative views of EV, the truth is I am not optimistic or pessimistic. I am pragmatic. I was an early advocate of EV automobiles dating back to 1996 with Horlacher AG. The concept was a small, efficient electric vehicle. Imagine my disgust when they started throwing batteries in huge sport-ute hybrids. Then Musk comes along with the S, an unaffordable tank with horrible resale value. When you look around you and see the seas of apartment dwellers that will likely never have access to level 2 charging at home or run an extension cord with associated voltage drop out their window to trickle charge their EV... or wait in a long line while people top up their EV at a local charging station (average time 30 to 45 minutes each) I have already mentioned the antiquated electrical grid and the fact that the money is simply not there to upgrade it. My daughter just wrote a white paper on how it actually benefits grid operators not to upgrade. And Texas and California asking people to scale back their electrical usage with our existing demand. EVs work great right now for those with a home with 240 volt charger and perhaps a second car with ICE power for road trips. It's when you try to scale this up to the Nirvana future being proposed for the masses that you will have an untenable scenario. Pragmatically, it's not going to work folks. |
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05-21-2022, 12:16 PM | #587 |
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i think you have to add "not with the present technology" to the end of wavsines last sentence.in 100 years the attitude towards ICE cars may be the same as our attitude towards the horse and buggy today.quaint,but slow and instead of road apples they will leave CO2 deposits.just as not everyone wanted to run out and buy the original model T,not everyone will switch to electric right away.ironically this is a saving grace for EVs as it will take time to allow the technology to mature and the charging stations show up en masse.
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