[HoodCheck]

Originally Posted by SATINSTEEL1LE

Let me correct you back. Chevrolet calls them dive planes. So go ahead and learn something smart guy.

Secondly Im on my second ZL1. The first was a 2018 1LE and the current is a 21 ZL1. So I know a thing or two about these and how they ride... I was also going to add another 22 SS1LE but that fell through. So its just a single 21 ZL1 a10 at the moment.

Uhhh, I said "dive planes", you didn't. As was pointed out, I was correcting your typo, and even said I was chocking it up to a typo. Your car in your tag there was apparently updated, but it did say SS 1LE at the time of your comment, not ZL1, hence my statement.
Nobody was talking about how great the ZLE is on the street, if anything, in this thread I have pointed out that its not a ride thats for everyone, and only certain people will like it more, but that I like it more because of the DSSV. So for ME, its better on the street (I also have some back roads with very few cars and nice turns to play on when I want to that are around me).
It is also true though, you tried talking shit, I just shut that shit down is all....actually, you've tried talking shit twice now, both of which were because you failed to read properly.
What my preference is, isn't going to be everyones. I just am not a fan of the regular ZL1, I found it super boring, and over time I discovered it was because I crave the feel of the road that the DSSV provides is all....thats why I had went back to a Z/28 after the regular ZL1, and why I wouldn't ever go with a regular ZL1 again. I am not a super big fan of the spoiler on the ZLE (its actually the reason I got a regular ZL1 the first time), because with my seating position, it blocks the rear view mirror, so I may end up going with a 19+ ZLE with the A10, which is what I had originally been looking for.
I didn't pay more for the ZLE personally because I didn't buy it new....I wouldn't buy a new 6th gen of any model, they are too overpriced and not worth it imo. Hell, I'm not even really a fan of what they look like, I'm just a camaro enthusiast is all and have owned over 20 from all gens, even 2nd gen v2, and I HATE the look of 2nd gen v2.

Bummer your new ride fell through though.

[Edward Paul]

There's another factor that's being overlooked.
How good are the roads in your area?
I'm okay with a stiff car in my hood but wouldn't want to drive it in South Louisiana.
Been there, done that..

[raptor5244]

Originally Posted by Palutz

Banging the hottest chick that was crazy is not easy to explain to people that never had it. That was the Z/28 in 14/15. Then her cousin (ZLE) showed up in 2018 and she was better in every way to the ones that went through that before. Some people want the excitement or they’ll die young. It’s that easy. No need to bicker like little girls over the ZL1 or ZLE. Some have done a line of coke and they enjoyed it. Some just hate the fun just on principle.

Interesting analogies. So, does that mean the standard ZL1 is a decent looking chick and marriage material?

[NG329]

I feel attacked! hahahaha

I've never done a line of coke.

I personally never saw the hype around the Z28 especially since it was "Soundly Trounced" (in the words of George W.) by the Ford GT350 which in of itself is utter 'gabbage'. hahahahha

[raptor5244]

Originally Posted by HoodCheck

Lol; I took my ex wife out in mine and within a few minutes, she said "I think this is my favorite camaro you've had yet" (which funny enough, she thought the Z/28s were a bit rough, but they were actually a softer ride). She had driven my regular ZL1 a number of times too.

I find the handling in the ZLE to be more precise on the street as well (especially winding roads, and I have some nice back roads with tight turns and roundabouts by me), and you're exactly right on the tires, and the bouncing (on the bright side, it keeps you away from trying to mess with your phone while driving, cuz it aint happening until a stop light or sign lol). The guy in the video is right that it follows every little line in the road as well, which is the "you and the road" feeling I was talking about.

I feel my 5th GEN SS 1LE was stiffer than the ZL1 in Track Mode. Probably the mag ride doing its thing. That said, I did like the sharpness of the 5th GEN SS 1LE suspension even though anytime I hit a decent bump I thought I was going to break something in the car. Those expansion cracks on the highways make for some interesting sound. The ZL1 strikes a pretty good balance. It is ideal for the street, in fact I think it may be even better with a set of the Michelin PS4S tires.

[NG329]

The regular 6th gen ZL1 really is no slouch on the track either. For most people I think it is in fact the better option. Especially if it's your "One and Only" ....and this is coming from a ZL1 1LE owner. Most people aren't taking turns hard enough in the standard ZL1 to induce body roll. If that's you.... and you gotta be honest, then there's no need for the 1LE.

I'm a track rat all the way and I can turn respectable laps so the 1LE was just right for me. It did give me headaches initially until I got used to it. Now I'm immune.

[raptor5244]

Originally Posted by NG329

I feel attacked! hahahaha

I've never done a line of coke.

I personally never saw the hype around the Z28 especially since it was "Soundly Trounced" (in the words of George W.) by the Ford GT350 which in of itself is utter 'gabbage'. hahahahha

Yeah, I thought the Z28 looked pretty cool but it was based on the aging 5th gen platform so no matter how much you try to strip it down it was still too heavy. 3820lbs without air conditioning, 505hp/481tq vs. ZL1 1LE with AC and supercharged LT4 is 3820lbs as well. 650hp/650tq.

It would have been cool if the ZL1 1LE was the 6th GEN Z28 instead. Maybe even go a bit further with it to reduce weight. Strip the AC, rear seats, lighter wheels, carbon ceramic brake option, etc.

[HoodCheck]

Originally Posted by raptor5244

Yeah, I thought the Z28 looked pretty cool but it was based on the aging 5th gen platform so no matter how much you try to strip it down it was still too heavy. 3820lbs without air conditioning, 505hp/481tq vs. ZL1 1LE with AC and supercharged LT4 is 3820lbs as well. 650hp/650tq.

It would have been cool if the ZL1 1LE was the 6th GEN Z28 instead. Maybe even go a bit further with it to reduce weight. Strip the AC, rear seats, lighter wheels, carbon ceramic brake option, etc.

Only 116 out of 1801 Z/28s had no ac or radio...I'm 99% sure part of the reason they sold badly was because it was marketed as not having it, and to this day, so many people think it doesn't.
They didn't do the Z/28 moniker for the ZLE because they wanted to keep that slash for NA, but they scrapped the 6th gen Z/28 project...supposedly it was going to have the C8 Z06 motor in it.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by NG329

The regular 6th gen ZL1 really is no slouch on the track either. For most people I think it is in fact the better option. Especially if it's your "One and Only" ....and this is coming from a ZL1 1LE owner. Most people aren't taking turns hard enough in the standard ZL1 to induce body roll. If that's you.... and you gotta be honest, then there's no need for the 1LE.

I'm a track rat all the way and I can turn respectable laps so the 1LE was just right for me. It did give me headaches initially until I got used to it. Now I'm immune.

It pulls 1.04g so yea, its no slouch at all. That limit is far beyond the limits of what most untrained drivers will ever feel comfortable doing.

[Palutz]

Originally Posted by raptor5244

Interesting analogies. So, does that mean the standard ZL1 is a decent looking chick and marriage material?

Yes sir! Amber Heard is written all over the ZLE and I can’t wait to ride it!

[Idaho2018GTPremium]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

It pulls 1.04g so yea, its no slouch at all. That limit is far beyond the limits of what most untrained drivers will ever feel comfortable doing.

Motortrend got 1.07g on the ZL1 they tested, so it varies slightly depending on conditions. They also did the MT figure 8 in 23.1 seconds. Better than a GT350R and quite a bit better than the 20+ GT500 (both base and carbon fiber track pack GT500s). The base GT500 did 24.1 sec on the PS4S, and the GT500 CFTP got 23.5 sec on the Cup 2s. That one seemed down on grip as MT only achieved 1.05 g with the CFTP, and I know C&D achieved more skidpad grip.

Anyway, yeah, it's dangerous to approach those limits on public roads, you never know if there's some loose gravel or a damp/wet spot in the road that will send you flying off.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by Idaho2018GTPremium

Motortrend got 1.07g on the ZL1 they tested, so it varies slightly depending on conditions. They also did the MT figure 8 in 23.1 seconds. Better than a GT350R and quite a bit better than the 20+ GT500 (both base and carbon fiber track pack GT500s). The base GT500 did 24.1 sec on the PS4S, and the GT500 CFTP got 23.5 sec on the Cup 2s. That one seemed down on grip as MT only achieved 1.05 g with the CFTP, and I know C&D achieved more skidpad grip.

Anyway, yeah, it's dangerous to approach those limits on public roads, you never know if there's some loose gravel or a damp/wet spot in the road that will send you flying off.

1.07 is even better, it was Car and Driver that pulled 1.04g.

[Idaho2018GTPremium]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

1.07 is even better, it was Car and Driver that pulled 1.04g.

Yeah, for the A10. Out of curiosity I just looked up C&D's skidpad for the M6 ZL1 and it Matched the MT result of 1.07g. Not too shabby of a grip range.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by Idaho2018GTPremium

Yeah, for the A10. Out of curiosity I just looked up C&D's skidpad for the M6 ZL1 and it Matched the MT result of 1.07g. Not too shabby of a grip range.

Yea, it was the A10 that got 1.04g. Could have easily been a difference in track day temps though between it and the M6 they tested.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...1-test-review/