PERFORMANCE ENGINE CENTER PLAQUE - Page 13

ZPirate · 04-02-2022, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by armycop71

From what I've read, the PBC engine "masters" put the whole engine together at one workstation. The regular LT1 is built on an assembly line, many hands on them. I would assume the quality from the PBC is higher.

If that is the case you would expect the quality to be better and that the tolerances of the individual components would also be better due to the individual doing the work wanting to make sure the product is top notch knowing his or her name is going on it.

arpad_m · 04-02-2022, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by armycop71

From what I've read, the PBC engine "masters" put the whole engine together at one workstation. The regular LT1 is built on an assembly line, many hands on them. I would assume the quality from the PBC is higher.

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Originally Posted by ZPirate

If that is the case you would expect the quality to be better and that the tolerances of the individual components would also be better due to the individual doing the work wanting to make sure the product is top notch knowing his or her name is going on it.

You guys' optimism is commendable, but this isn't exactly the Koenigsegg assembly plant in Sweden. If I ran the assembly line, there would be individual metrics and operator names associated with each component and phase, plus thousands of tests run on every LT1/LT4 that gets built, PBC or not... and I'm just a regular guy with 0 automotive manufacturing experience, so I imagine there are many more quality gates I've never even heard of.

In summary, I don't think there is a measurable difference in the build quality of these engines. That said, I have an open mind and am happy to hear out any concrete rebuttal from actual experience (with manufacturing, not something like a single failure point with someone's own motor).

Cap_Camaro · 04-03-2022, 09:57 PM

Robert Hodge built the engine in my 2022 Camaro 2SS.
Thank you Robert.

Infidel6687 · 04-04-2022, 04:03 PM

2022 2SS 1LE 6manual build was January 31 2022 has it built by Zak Lamb

Infidel6687 · 04-04-2022, 04:05 PM

Forgot pic

ckt227 · 04-05-2022, 02:33 PM

Just got my ordered 22 ZL1. Shout out and thanks to Kaleb Dudley.

raptor5244 · 04-05-2022, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Infidel6687

2022 2SS 1LE 6manual build was January 31 2022 has it built by Zak Lamb

Nice. Zak built my ZL1 LT4. I hope he enjoying building these engines. The direction GM is going Zak will be installed electric motors and batteries soon.

Ryfly05 · 04-05-2022, 10:37 PM

2022 2SS 1LE M6 built February 2022. Thanks Robert! Seems you've got some experience building these things at least!

arpad_m · 04-05-2022, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryfly05

2022 2SS 1LE M6 built February 2022. Thanks Robert! Seems you've got some experience building these things at least!

I recall a youtube Camaro review that he commented on and congratulated the owner, pretty cool from him.

EDIT: found it!

Ryfly05 · 04-06-2022, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by arpad_m

I recall a youtube Camaro review that he commented on and congratulated the owner, pretty cool from him.

EDIT: found it!

Oh wow, that's cool thanks for that. I even watched that video before I got my car lol.

tommcd24 · 04-06-2022, 09:31 AM

Quick question as I suspect I probably have one of these plaques since on my M6 2SS. Where is it located, I'm guessing under the engine cover somewhere?

ETA: I went back and started reading the thread from the beginning, followed a couple of hints and did a good search which lead to this video, which shows the removal of the side portion of the engine cover at the 52s mark.

Nate76 · 04-23-2022, 08:48 PM

My is a 2022 2SS manual vert. Aug 2021 build date. I have the plaque too. Has anyone heard of anyone with the LT1 with a manual transmission without the plaque? Maybe all the manual where built by hand at the PCB?

armycop71 · 04-23-2022, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate76

My is a 2022 2SS manual vert. Aug 2021 build date. I have the plaque too. Has anyone heard of anyone with the LT1 with a manual transmission without the plaque? Maybe all the manual where built by hand at the PCB?

Sounds like all the manual LT1 cars have had it for a couple years. I am guessing since the A10 gets the cylinder deactivation, the manual equipped engines aren't built on the same production line. I'm going to Bowling Green next weekend to the NCM/Factory for the Michelin NCM fest. I am going to track down DEBI LEWIS and thank her for the great engine!

Seriously though, there are going to be some GM reps from the Camaro/Corvette marketing team and I may ask them...

z28deuce · 04-23-2022, 09:09 PM

Pretty sure they started building them in BG when they quit building the C7 Z06 with the LT4. That way they could keep the PBC running, keep their experienced people assigned there, etc. The engines needed for all ZL1 LT4s plus the manual SS and LT1 LT1s probably just fit the available capacity, plus they could keep the previously used automated engine line running at reduced capacity for the auto LT1s.

With all the demand for the C8 Z06, once it goes into production I have to believe the PBC will be busy building those engines and the Camaro engines will go back to the automated line until they're done.

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04-03-2022, 09:57 PM	#171
Cap_Camaro Drives: 2022 Camaro 2SS. M6. Snrf. Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Sacramento Ca Posts: 46	Robert Hodge built the engine in my 2022 Camaro 2SS. Thank you Robert. Attached Images

04-04-2022, 04:05 PM	#173
Infidel6687 Drives: Chevy Monte Carlo Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Missouri Posts: 2	Forgot pic Attached Images

04-05-2022, 10:37 PM	#176
Ryfly05 Drives: 22 2SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2022 Location: WA Posts: 51	2022 2SS 1LE M6 built February 2022. Thanks Robert! Seems you've got some experience building these things at least! Attached Images

04-06-2022, 09:31 AM	#179
tommcd24 Drives: 2SS M6 NPP Convertible Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: MN Posts: 330 View My Garage	Quick question as I suspect I probably have one of these plaques since on my M6 2SS. Where is it located, I'm guessing under the engine cover somewhere? ETA: I went back and started reading the thread from the beginning, followed a couple of hints and did a good search which lead to this video, which shows the removal of the side portion of the engine cover at the 52s mark. __________________ 2SS Convertible M6 NPP Riverside Blue w/ Silver Rally Stripes Dec. 18: took her home Dec. 9: arrival at dealer Nov. 16-29: Toledo, OH (railyard) Nov. 9: 3800 -> 4300 (for stripes) Oct. 8: 3400 status TPW 10/25 Oct. 6: 3100 status TPW 10/25 Sept. 9: 3000 status TPW 10/4/2021 Sept. 3: 2000 status (after 5 1/2 months) Sept. 2: Change Order: 2SS (V6 constraint) April 12: Reordered as ‘22 3LT RS V6 (March 16:Initial Order ‘21 3LT RS V6)

04-04-2022, 04:03 PM	#172
Infidel6687 Drives: Chevy Monte Carlo Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Missouri Posts: 2	2022 2SS 1LE 6manual build was January 31 2022 has it built by Zak Lamb

04-05-2022, 02:33 PM	#174
ckt227 Drives: CHEVROLET CORVETTE Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: SWFL Posts: 513	Just got my ordered 22 ZL1. Shout out and thanks to Kaleb Dudley.

04-23-2022, 08:48 PM	#180
Nate76 Drives: 2022 2SS Convertible Join Date: May 2011 Location: Ontario Posts: 96	My is a 2022 2SS manual vert. Aug 2021 build date. I have the plaque too. Has anyone heard of anyone with the LT1 with a manual transmission without the plaque? Maybe all the manual where built by hand at the PCB?

04-23-2022, 09:09 PM	#182
z28deuce Drives: 2021 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 341	Pretty sure they started building them in BG when they quit building the C7 Z06 with the LT4. That way they could keep the PBC running, keep their experienced people assigned there, etc. The engines needed for all ZL1 LT4s plus the manual SS and LT1 LT1s probably just fit the available capacity, plus they could keep the previously used automated engine line running at reduced capacity for the auto LT1s. With all the demand for the C8 Z06, once it goes into production I have to believe the PBC will be busy building those engines and the Camaro engines will go back to the automated line until they're done. Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

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