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Old 03-23-2022, 09:42 PM   #15
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Given the amount of weight (I'll estimate 600 pounds between tools, supplies, wheels/tires, etc.) you'll have on the trailer and that passenger car tires will support 1K, does the trailer tire rule apply here?
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Well according to the ETRAILER guys who are the experts in this field, YES it still does matter.
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Old 03-23-2022, 09:58 PM   #16
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OK so today I was having this interface installed that several of us have mentioned that allows you to tie into your existing wiring for your trailer wiring WITHOUT having to splice into your factory wiring. This is the EXACT module I was referring to:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CKQJCBY/

So my installation guy had to call TECH SUPPORT and they finally stated that this PARTICULAR product WOULD NOT work with my 2019 Camaro SS after they did some debugging and testing They apparently have ANOTHER one that will however so I am having THAT installed tomorrow. I will post up the product information on THAT one if it works. It appears that original unit DOES work on earlier year models. The tech support guy was surprized the unit I originally purchased would not work on my 2019 but he suggested that the other product WOULD so we will try that.
That's really bizarre. The one you link to is the one I'm using in my 2020 and it's also the one that's in a friend's 2020.

Do you know what the issue was?
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Old 03-24-2022, 07:17 AM   #17
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That's really bizarre. The one you link to is the one I'm using in my 2020 and it's also the one that's in a friend's 2020.

Do you know what the issue was?
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Well not specifically NO. I will try and find out today when I drop it off again.

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Well apparently the Tekonsha ZCI unit I purchased had issues with the trailer turn signal lamps. The trailer brake lights and flashers worked fine but the turn signals would not work at all or they work intermittently. The support rep theorized that the LED taillights (which are stock units) on the 2019 were the issue which is the reason we ordered the other interface which WONT be installed until FRIDAY. I will post back results when done.
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Old 03-24-2022, 11:21 PM   #18
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MODIFIED Curt Hitch NOW installed

The first TWO pics are of an UNMODIFIED Curt Hitch. All the other pics show a Curt Hitch I had MODIFIED so that when NOT in use, it will be hidden by unbolting TWO CLASS 8 bolts. the LAST Pic shows what it looks like underneath the car installed.

Modifications were done by a friend of mine who is a chassis fabricator for BRINKS RACECRAFT.

The hitch weighs a total of 25 pounds. The removable part weights 4 pounds and the part that is ALWAYS on the car is 21 pounds. I did the hitch install myself which wasnt too bad. It requires the removal of the back bumper and the aluminum bumper crash bar. In the old days these crash bars were anywhere from 30-50 pounds and made out of steel. This one only weighs 10.5 pounds. Dont even THINK though about NOT putting it back on.
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Old 03-25-2022, 02:00 PM   #19
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Just a FYI for those doing wiring. Curt makes a custom plug and play kit for our cars. Part #56318. It has male and female plugs for the tail light harness. No cutting, splicing or voltage sensors. I ordered one from Amazon to go with the Leroy Engineering hidden hitch that is on the way. I don;t like to cut factory wiring and I won't cut my rear bumper cover as well.
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Old 03-25-2022, 03:10 PM   #20
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Just a FYI for those doing wiring. Curt makes a custom plug and play kit for our cars. Part #56318. It has male and female plugs for the tail light harness. No cutting, splicing or voltage sensors. I ordered one from Amazon to go with the Leroy Engineering hidden hitch that is on the way. I don;t like to cut factory wiring and I won't cut my rear bumper cover as well.
I don't think that will work with 2019+ Camaros without modding the Curt harness quite a bit.

The car's harnesses and where they connect to the tail light assemblies changed with the facelift. Before the facelift, the harness plugged in from behind in a cavity between the body and the tail light assembly.

Post-facelift, the harness plugs in below and at the rear of the assembly and requires rear bumper cover removal.

I think, but am not sure, the wiring & or pins changed as well.
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Old 03-25-2022, 03:35 PM   #21
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I don't think that will work with 2019+ Camaros without modding the Curt harness quite a bit.

The car's harnesses and where they connect to the tail light assemblies changed with the facelift. Before the facelift, the harness plugged in from behind in a cavity between the body and the tail light assembly.

Post-facelift, the harness plugs in below and at the rear of the assembly and requires rear bumper cover removal.

I think, but am not sure, the wiring & or pins changed as well.
Good call. I’m not sure either as I have a 2018. Definitely something to check into before ordering. I found the figment info on Etrailer first before ordering.
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Old 03-25-2022, 11:00 PM   #22
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Just a FYI for those doing wiring. Curt makes a custom plug and play kit for our cars. Part #56318. It has male and female plugs for the tail light harness. No cutting, splicing or voltage sensors. I ordered one from Amazon to go with the Leroy Engineering hidden hitch that is on the way. I don;t like to cut factory wiring and I won't cut my rear bumper cover as well.
Ok my guy just TODAY installed the 56318 Curt Harness and although it tested fine WITHOUT the trailer, it is NOT operating correctly particularly when turn signals are activated once it is hooked to my trailer. I have no doubt that he will figure it out and I will post back if he is successful.
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Old 03-27-2022, 04:07 AM   #23
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Trailer loaded up

OK these pics BELOW are my trailer loaded up and ready to go to the track on saturday 3/26 to Motorsports Ranch Cresson Tx MSRC.

On a side note, because the CURT hitch receiver is BELOW the bumper you will need to run at least a 4 inch RISER to bring the nose of the trailer UP. 5 inch RISER would even be a little better.

The trailer rode very well even at 80MPH without swaying. GAS mileage difference towing trailer (about 800 pounds loaded weight) was negligible. I replaced the 12 inch wheels with 13 inch hi performance tire/wheel setup from the ETRAILER boys.

About the only negative thing was this trailer is NOISY. Thats to be expected though from a bolt together trailer and it actually got a little quieter loaded because of the additional weight over the NOSE of the trailer.

The only thing left I am going to do is to powdercoat the wheels satin black to match the wheels on my car.
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OK these pics BELOW are my trailer loaded up and ready to go to the track on saturday 3/26 to Motorsports Ranch Cresson Tx MSRC.

On a side note, because the CURT hitch receiver is BELOW the bumper you will need to run at least a 4 inch RISER to bring the nose of the trailer UP. 5 inch RISER would even be a little better.

The trailer rode very well even at 80MPH without swaying. GAS mileage difference towing trailer (about 800 pounds loaded weight) was negligible. I replaced the 12 inch wheels with 13 inch hi performance tire/wheel setup from the ETRAILER boys.

About the only negative thing was this trailer is NOISY. Thats to be expected though from a bolt together trailer and it actually got a little quieter loaded because of the additional weight over the NOSE of the trailer.

The only thing left I am going to do is to powdercoat the wheels satin black to match the wheels on my car.
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Old 04-04-2022, 09:36 AM   #25
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UPDATES 56318 Curt Interface and Hitch

The 56318 Curt interface is NOW working properly with my trailer lights. MY installer just this morning had to install some resistors because my trailer has LED lights also.

Also I installed a receiver with a 5 INCH rise (I was using four inch rise) and the trailer is now just SLIGHTLY nose down. It pulls great at a steady 80MPH which no doubt is due to the ETRAILER 13 inch radial trailer tires (M speed rating - 81MPH) and the weight distribution .

Only thing left that I will do is to modify the trailer fender brackets so that they can accommodate the larger trailer tire. Powder coater is going to do the wheels in satin black next week to match the car.
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Old 08-16-2023, 01:49 AM   #26
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Just a FYI for those doing wiring. Curt makes a custom plug and play kit for our cars. Part #56318. It has male and female plugs for the tail light harness. No cutting, splicing or voltage sensors. I ordered one from Amazon to go with the Leroy Engineering hidden hitch that is on the way. I don;t like to cut factory wiring and I won't cut my rear bumper cover as well.
Thankyou for posting this. Doing research for my own trailer and this is super helpful.
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