[Higgs Boson]

Henry David Thoreau actually coined the term PDR in 1851. He used it as shorthand for Public Display of Reflection. I think the underlying issue in this thread is angst created by Chevrolet's blatant plagiarism. So really, if you can't use PDR to see yourself, is it worth the money?

[mariojas]

Thanks guys. You convinced me to skip those two.

At the beginning - Oct 2021 I was die hard "I want XYZ and I will wait for it!". Fast forward last weekend - started to doubt things, created this thread. Reserved Riverside blue ZL1 with red "stuff" inside.

And today I pulled a trigger on a car which only lacks one thing - my dream color. Now I think it is for the better - too much attention, for a daily.
SHE'S HOME!!!!!!!!! I am so happy, and anxious to be done with breaking period!

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by mariojas

Thanks guys. You convinced me to skip those two.

At the beginning - Oct 2021 I was die hard "I want XYZ and I will wait for it!". Fast forward last weekend - started to doubt things, created this thread. Reserved Riverside blue ZL1 with red "stuff" inside.

And today I pulled a trigger on a car which only lacks one thing - my dream color. Now I think it is for the better - too much attention, for a daily.
SHE'S HOME!!!!!!!!! I am so happy, and anxious to be done with breaking period!

Wicked! Enjoy the monster and let us know how it feels. Oh, and this blue also looks pretty good if I may say so

[mariojas]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

Wicked! Enjoy the monster and let us know how it feels. Oh, and this blue also looks pretty good if I may say so

It's metallic so plus in my book. My last two Chargers were flat :( Flat is nice... Until it gets boring.

Yeah... I heard that little kitty starting to say hello, but I said "no! break-in period first!"

[ZED SLED]

Originally Posted by zxspeedspec

Yes, it has both. I've used both exactly 1 time. GPS still thought my house was an empty field and the PDR sucked ass. Replaced both with Android Auto and a Garmin Catalyst. If you have a ZL1 and can't afford a serious datalogger, you didn't need a ZL1 with PDR for track days to begin with, you were never that serious and the PDR was just to share a "cool" pre-rendered video.

Notice how the GM lap record for Nurburgring didn't use their shitty PDR? Yeah, it's because that would've reverse marketed the car.

As a Garmin employee, thank you for your support!

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by zxspeedspec

Yes, it has both.

Good for you.

Originally Posted by zxspeedspec

I used both exactly 1 time. GPS still thought my house was an empty field

You didn't use it right.

Originally Posted by zxspeedspec

the PDR sucked ass.

Something was wrong with yours. Or maybe all of them after 2017 sucked. Because mine is awesome AF.

Originally Posted by zxspeedspec

Replaced both with Android Auto and a Garmin Catalyst.

Sorry to hear that.

Originally Posted by zxspeedspec

If you have a ZL1 and can't afford a serious datalogger,

My sig is enough to show what I can "afford".

Originally Posted by zxspeedspec

you didn't need a ZL1 with PDR for track days to begin with, you were never that serious and the PDR was just to share a "cool" pre-rendered video.

I couldn't care less about the track. As long as my ZL1 is in my possession, it will never be on a track.

Originally Posted by zxspeedspec

Notice how the GM lap record for Nurburgring didn't use their shitty PDR? Yeah, it's because that would've reverse marketed the car.

Yet you have it on your car. I'm sorry that you paid extra for options and were obviously given defective parts. My GPS works perfectly and I never updated it. I have no idea what you're typing in yours or even if you know how to use it properly. Because there is no way on God's green Earth that you set your home address and it sent you to an open field. Guess what pal, when you get to your home, you set that particular location as "home" or whatever you want to call it and it will direct you to that location each and every time. So you did not use yours properly. At all. So in your case perhaps an easier to use and more user friendly device is suitable. Because you can put a dime in a field and if it has an address my stock Nav will put my right tire on top of it.

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by zxspeedspec

Yes, it has both. I've used both exactly 1 time. GPS still thought my house was an empty field and the PDR sucked ass. Replaced both with Android Auto and a Garmin Catalyst. If you have a ZL1 and can't afford a serious datalogger, you didn't need a ZL1 with PDR for track days to begin with, you were never that serious and the PDR was just to share a "cool" pre-rendered video.

Notice how the GM lap record for Nurburgring didn't use their shitty PDR? Yeah, it's because that would've reverse marketed the car.

I'm not as patient as Blaq, so I'll only address the last silly taunt in this sea of arrogance you have been flaunting. The Nürburgring run used a RaceLogic unit (from what I can tell) because it was a certified run that required specific, externally calibrated equipment, not a manufacturer's own internal unit, for obvious reasons.

[zxspeedspec]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

I'm not as patient as Blaq, so I'll only address the last silly taunt in this sea of arrogance you have been flaunting. The Nürburgring run used a RaceLogic unit (from what I can tell) because it was a certified run that required specific, externally calibrated equipment, not a manufacturer's own internal unit, for obvious reasons.

So... you just provided proof that the factory PDR is garbage and made my point for me?

[zxspeedspec]

Originally Posted by ZED SLED

As a Garmin employee, thank you for your support!

If I wanted to buy one for a friend as a gift... got any discounts?

I owe him a set of take offs, but I figure he'd like this much more especially since he keeps borrowing mine when I'm not on track.

[Vigilante375]

Originally Posted by zxspeedspec

So... you just provided proof that the factory PDR is garbage and made my point for me?

Porsche has their own PDR right? Porsche track precision app. They never have used it to show off their Ring runs.

So I can assume their PDR is garbage as well.

[Fast4wd]

The back and forth in this thread is...awkward. Grown adults bickering and showing off. Unbecoming.

FWIW, I wanted the PDR as I track my vehicles, but I wouldn't have received an allocation in 22 if I didn't give up the option. I will have to purchase a catalyst or something similar to replace it. I have previously used the TrackAddict app with a OBD dongle and that worked pretty well.

[zxspeedspec]

Originally Posted by Vigilante375

Porsche has their own PDR right? Porsche track precision app. They never have used it to show off their Ring runs.

So I can assume their PDR is garbage as well.

This is the same argument for navigation. Why would I want the shitty nav provided by GM when I can have Google Maps with constant Google updates? If you just want to make some fun videos for YouTube and brag to your friends you've been to a racetrack, any factory PDR will do it with the lowest level of effort since they pre-render the graphics. If you're trying to improve as a driver past a certain extent, you need a standalone system that you can upgrade as newer tech comes out. Plus, my Catalyst works on my motorcycle as well. I can't exactly tow my ZL1 behind my racebike.