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Old 10-29-2021, 12:58 PM   #1
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Decided to run meth on my bolt on NA car

Was finally able to add Methanol to my bolt on only car over the weekend. Had to mix it with e85 and 93 octane but still made decent numbers with what we were able to do. On e85 I made 487rwhp and with the meth mixture we made 525/504 to the wheels. Yes that was SAE not STD. The Car went a 11.21@124mph at my local track before the last round of mods. 11.21 was e85 only for fuel. I have since dropped 300lbs off the car, added my circle d converter, bigger cold air kit, solid motor mounts, lighter rear wheels, and have since added the meth for fuel. Will be adding Lighter brakes on all 4 corners, maybe a different intake Manifold, drag seats and upgrade the fuel system to run straight meth. May hit capital city dragway or atco before the end of the year to see how much better she runs now.
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Old 10-29-2021, 01:20 PM   #2
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Old 11-05-2021, 04:22 PM   #3
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Hey LeoDirt, im also interested in Meth injection, My Car is an 18 1LE,Manual, FBO, stage 2 cam and tuned the Vengeance Racing on E-85. Since I have the ZL1 low side, do you think in still have enough fuel pump to run meth?
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Old 11-05-2021, 06:39 PM   #4
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Hey LeoDirt, im also interested in Meth injection, My Car is an 18 1LE,Manual, FBO, stage 2 cam and tuned the Vengeance Racing on E-85. Since I have the ZL1 low side, do you think in still have enough fuel pump to run meth?
nope you wont have enough. Im in the process of working with lonnies perforamce to build me a fuel system.
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Old 03-07-2022, 07:57 PM   #5
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I guess dropped dropping 300 lbs, switching to m5, converter, intake, and switching to poverty stars didn't help, because it looks like fasterproms had your car at dragway 42 and it ran an 11.34 @ 124?

I don't know where you get 525 rwhp out of a trap speed of only 124

I went 10.9 @124 at keystone raceway Park, at full weight, with only 460 rwhp.
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Old 03-07-2022, 08:44 PM   #6
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I guess dropped dropping 300 lbs, switching to m5, converter, intake, and switching to poverty stars didn't help, because it looks like fasterproms had your car at dragway 42 and it ran an 11.34 @ 124?

I don't know where you get 525 rwhp out of a trap speed of only 124

I went 10.9 @124 at keystone raceway Park, at full weight, with only 460 rwhp.
There is a name I haven't seen in a while! Did you get the new setup up and running?
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Old 03-07-2022, 10:51 PM   #7
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Wow . 6.8 at only 98mph. That’s pretty Efficient. That car has some good low end. So I’m trying to understand how meth would work on a bolt on car ? I know it’s cold but it’s not like our inlet temps are that hot to begin with. On a boosted car it’s easy to understand but on an N/A car what would be the advantage . I know meth is a fuel but you also need more air to ignite it , if there’s no boost then how do you make power?
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Old 03-08-2022, 02:01 AM   #8
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i believe op is in the left lane.

i've wondered how the car with make so much more on methanol, as well. all i can figure is if you can get more fuel in there and cleanly burn it, more power will follow.
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Old 03-08-2022, 07:21 PM   #9
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S346k. Oh shit your right . My bad . I thought with all those mods and weight reduction he would easily be in the 10’s.
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Old 03-13-2022, 02:03 PM   #10
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I guess dropped dropping 300 lbs, switching to m5, converter, intake, and switching to poverty stars didn't help, because it looks like fasterproms had your car at dragway 42 and it ran an 11.34 @ 124?

I don't know where you get 525 rwhp out of a trap speed of only 124

I went 10.9 @124 at keystone raceway Park, at full weight, with only 460 rwhp.
Well Mr know it all it didnt have the converter in when jeremy ran it at mason dixon not dragway 42 dipshit. Also had a bent pushrod when it went a 11.34. After I fixed the bent pushrod it went a 11.21 at keystone. 11.21 was 487 and I was running e85 only. I had jermey retune it with meth and the converter. Went to the track to run it in last november but some ass clown wrecked his zl1 camaro so I never got to make a run. So what your point Mr know it all?? Or are you jsut out to stir up shit like you always have?
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Old 03-13-2022, 02:29 PM   #11
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Wow . 6.8 at only 98mph. That’s pretty Efficient. That car has some good low end. So I’m trying to understand how meth would work on a bolt on car ? I know it’s cold but it’s not like our inlet temps are that hot to begin with. On a boosted car it’s easy to understand but on an N/A car what would be the advantage . I know meth is a fuel but you also need more air to ignite it , if there’s no boost then how do you make power?
Meth kinda like its big brother nitro methane liberates oxygen when it ignites there for similar in a way like a super charger bringing its own air. And u can burn a lot more of it as well per volume of air entering the engine.

e85, ethanol, i think 35% oxygen meth 40% plus some I forget maybe 46% then, nitro flips the script nitro has no afr because it brings it on oxygen and the more u put in the more will burn and make power. 52% ox maybe The limit being hydro locking. The ogs of oxygenated fuels ha.

Oxygenated race gas just means it has some alcohol blended into it to make more power. Fuels that make the most power are also in that order.

e85
methanol
nitro.

I dont know where nitrous oxide falls probly between meth and nitro. But as an add on as it again brings its own oxygen into the combustion process.
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Old 03-13-2022, 02:38 PM   #12
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Meth kinda like its big brother nitro methane liberates oxygen when it ignites there for similar in a way like a super charger bringing its own air. And u can burn a lot more of it as well per volume of air entering the engine.

e85, ethanol, i think 35% oxygen meth 40% plus some I forget maybe 46% then, nitro flips the script nitro has no afr because it brings it on oxygen and the more u put in the more will burn and make power. 52% ox maybe The limit being hydro locking. The ogs of oxygenated fuels ha.

Oxygenated race gas just means it has some alcohol blended into it to make more power. Fuels that make the most power are also in that order.

e85
methanol
nitro.

I dont know where nitrous oxide falls probly between meth and nitro. But as an add on as it again brings its own oxygen into the combustion process.
I think meth is 80%. I forget the numbers i had figured out before. I know we ended up running like 7 gallons of meth and the rest was 93 octane. My buddy lonnie who does fuel system said I needed like a 1500hp style fuel system to run straight meth like I wanted lol. I plan on doing this but with my current work schedule it will have to wait. I hope to run full meth by the end of summer or early fall.
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Old 03-13-2022, 07:58 PM   #13
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Who’s tuning the car? Numbers look solid though and seems right for what was added.
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Old 03-13-2022, 08:50 PM   #14
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Who’s tuning the car? Numbers look solid though and seems right for what was added.
Jeremy formato tunes my cars
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