[gpskinzhut]

Originally Posted by Wobble Goat

Reasons people buy a V6 Camaro.
• Misinformed. Bought it to save fuel. Its a V8 platform with a smaller motor tossed in it. The small motor will work harder to move the mass not meant for it, hence there isn't a drastic difference in MPG between the engines. Fuel efficiency = how you drive. If you want a vehicle that saves on fuel, purchase a vehicle designed on the smaller drivetrain and drive slow making only right turns.

For starters, this isn't a "V8 Platform." It's a front engine/RWD platform with support for a broad range of power delivery ranging from the 2.0 to the LT4 across a number of models & brands. The V6 is more efficient, though not by much if you keep your foot out of the V8. But since none of us bought a V8 to drive like a nun, this part is irrelevant. The V8 costs more to operate.

• Price. Not everyone can find the great deals or be willing to pay the asshole tax for the V8.

Probably your only valid point. V8's have a premium price tag and have a higher cost of ownership.

• No experience. Once you experience having that higher torque it doesn't feel the same not having it. People daily driving lesser cars know this feeling all to well, where you wish you drove the V8 instead when encountering certain situations.

Outside of towing, I wouldn't grade this all that high. The average buyer probably doesn't care so long as it accelerates fast enough to merge into traffic (which all the Camaro trims do just fine).

• Former V8 owners that made poor decisions. Not everyone can ride a motorcycle just like not everyone is capable of "controlling" a V8. These meat puppets trying to show off go WOT while entering a road rather than waiting till their straightened out 1st and end up pile driving there front fascia into a barrier or concrete polishing their rims. They blame everything else for their failure then end up buying a V6 using the 1st and 2nd reasons mentioned above as their excuse.

Gonna have to say no and oddly specific. Most of the people I know who've crashed a V8 have not gone out scared and bought a lower-powered trim out of fear or whatever else you're spinning. Most of the V8 downgrades I've known have been out of necessity to lower costs due to life/lifestyle changes or a change of priorities.

[Malbjey]

Originally Posted by Wobble Goat

Reasons people buy a V6 Camaro.
• They are misinformed.
• They want a muscle car look without the price.
• They haven't driven a V8.
• They can't handle a V8.

• Misinformed. Bought it to save fuel. Its a V8 platform with a smaller motor tossed in it. The small motor will work harder to move the mass not meant for it, hence there isn't a drastic difference in MPG between the engines. Fuel efficiency = how you drive. If you want a vehicle that saves on fuel, purchase a vehicle designed on the smaller drivetrain and drive slow making only right turns.

• Price. Not everyone can find the great deals or be willing to pay the asshole tax for the V8.

• No experience. Once you experience having that higher torque it doesn't feel the same not having it. People daily driving lesser cars know this feeling all to well, where you wish you drove the V8 instead when encountering certain situations.

• Former V8 owners that made poor decisions. Not everyone can ride a motorcycle just like not everyone is capable of "controlling" a V8. These meat puppets trying to show off go WOT while entering a road rather than waiting till their straightened out 1st and end up pile driving there front fascia into a barrier or concrete polishing their rims. They blame everything else for their failure then end up buying a V6 using the 1st and 2nd reasons mentioned above as their excuse.

So here's the reasons I previously bought a V6 Camaro:

I had a budget of 30K max

I wanted a RWD performance car
I wanted to keep fuel, insurance, brakes, tires, oil changes and other costs relatively low
I wanted a new car with full warranty

The car was my daily, and I'm 100% against buying a used sports/performance car for a daily. I just don't trust people, and don't want to take a gamble on someone previously beating on the car. That ruled out buying a slightly used V8. Plus, how many times do we read about people modding their cars, and then taking the mods off when they trade them in? I didn't want the risk. Also all the used V8 cars in my area at the time were previously rental car. Hell no lol.

I wanted a RWD car after driving FWD for years. That left me with the choices of Miata, BRZ/86, 370Z, and the non-V8 pony cars. That is not a huge list.

I wanted a little more space than a Miata, BRZ or 370Z could offer. Those cares are tiny by comparison. Also, no offense to the V6 Challenger but that car is a pig. It was too big.

Between the turbo 4 Mustang and the V6 Camaro, I liked the Camaro better. It drove better. It sounded better. At the time I wasn't yet annoyed with the worse trunk opening, or marginally worse backseats.

The non-V8 Camaro and Mustang are very good performance cars for the price. Their power:weight ratio is still equal or better than most other sporty cars in their price range, even if their chassis was designed to accommodate a V8.

If I wasn't using my car as a daily then I probably would have considered a used V8. But for those of us that can't afford a second/toy car, or don't have the extra space for it, the V6 is a decent compromise. I just wish GM made it a liftback like the 3rd and 4th gen, and gave a 2 to 3 inches more backseat space.

[ember1205]

Originally Posted by Malbjey

I wanted to keep fuel, insurance, brakes, tires, oil changes and other costs relatively low

I believe that the difference in insurance premium is pretty much universal, so very valid point there. For you, by not beating the snot out of it, you can definitely keep your overall day-to-day costs for operation down as well. I had a lightweight, small, sporty car a long time ago that I chewed tires off of pretty regularly because I always ran the higher performance ones for the grip and I pushed it on the corners. Not a terribly fast car, but it was quick off the line and cornered fantastically. That led to some extra operational costs though.

Originally Posted by Malbjey

I just wish GM made it a liftback like the 3rd and 4th gen, and gave a 2 to 3 inches more backseat space.

Another fair point with regard to backseat room, but it would also likely have meant no convertible option.

[Anjilslaire]

Yeah, I'm not misinformed, scared, or made a mistake. I simply didn't want a V8. Cost was meh, my 3LT was over $40k, so it wasn't on the cheaper end of the V6 spectrum. When my friends kid me about the engine, I tell them my junk is big enough for a V6 lol

[digitalfutur]

Prior to 5th gen, and arguably 4th gen, there was a huge performance gap between V6, and V8 Camaros (SS trim), that's no longer true. Yes, the SS is 1 second faster 0-60 (5.1/4.0) and yes, it holds the road better (.97g/.89g) and stops 7 feet shorter from 60 (2018 GM brochure info). If you want that level of performance and are willing to pay for it up front $10K+ extra), and in ongoing op cost (30%+), that's your call.

For me I don't have to ration driving my RS, (reg/premium gas in Canada USD 4.61/5.44 a gallon) and don't have to treat it like patio furniture and not use it 6 months of the year. Insurance is USD 750 a year. It's all about how much performance you're getting for your bucks and how often you can enjoy it.

[TXCSSU]

Not everyone wants/needs a V8. Some people love the Camaro, and don't care what's under the hood. Given that we all have enough love for the Camaro to join a Camaro forum, shouldn't the only thing that matters is the "Camaro" badge on the car?

[Malbjey]

Originally Posted by ember1205

Another fair point with regard to backseat room, but it would also likely have meant no convertible option.

Would just have to settle for T-Tops.

[genxer]

If anyone is on the fence of getting a 3.6 Camaro or another name car, get the 3.6.

[genxer]

Originally Posted by Malbjey

Would just have to settle for T-Tops.

The bucket handle greenhouse styling was bad. No to both. A very clean and open pass through to the trunk would fix a lot.

[Wyzz Kydd]

I don't dislike the V6. I had a loaner 2017 V6 RS a while back. It was quick and sounded pretty good.

Having said that, when it was time to buy my son a car and it came down to a non V-8 Camaro or Mustang we ended up going with the Mustang. The interior is cheaper, in my opinion, but it's got more pep than the Camaro and he liked the styling better (or maybe just wanted to be different from his old man).

[s346k]

i'll keep it simple. i would not own a camaro if the v8 cars did not perform like they do.

and if we're being honest, i am not a huge fan of the camaro itself. it looks ok from certain angles. basically everything about the car is tolerable (at best) in trade for performance. so no, i would not own a 6 cyl car because it's a camaro. if i knew then what i know now, id have bought a c7 instead.

the camaro chassis is amazing. the car does driving stuff great. stopping. going. turning.

everything else? eeehhhhhh

[Idaho2018GTPremium]

Originally Posted by digitalfutur

Prior to 5th gen, and arguably 4th gen, there was a huge performance gap between V6, and V8 Camaros (SS trim), that's no longer true. Yes, the SS is 1 second faster 0-60 (5.1/4.0) and yes, it holds the road better (.97g/.89g) and stops 7 feet shorter from 60 (2018 GM brochure info). If you want that level of performance and are willing to pay for it up front $10K+ extra), and in ongoing op cost (30%+), that's your call.

For me I don't have to ration driving my RS, (reg/premium gas in Canada USD 4.61/5.44 a gallon) and don't have to treat it like patio furniture and not use it 6 months of the year. Insurance is USD 750 a year. It's all about how much performance you're getting for your bucks and how often you can enjoy it.

While the 6th gen V6 Camaro is nice and performs as well as a Camaro SS in most performance tests from 20+ years ago, it's still not that close to a 6th gen SS in terms of overall performance and capability. For example, the 60-130 mph time takes about 60% longer in the RS V6 than the SS. That's not close at all. That's actually a bigger difference than between an SS and ZL1 (SS takes about 40-45% longer 60-130 mph than ZL1). The gap widens as speeds grow since the extra hp of the V8 cars are able to donate more hp to cut through the wind.

1/4 mile trap speed is another indicator of how far apart the two are in acceleration: 102-104 mph for the V6, and 115-118 mph for the SS. Keep in mind the SS is getting to that higher speed ~1.5 seconds earlier than the V6 gets to the lower speed. That's significant.

The SS has better brakes, more grip, much better acceleration, particularly as speeds climb as noted previously, etc. and while it's subjective, the SS has that small block Chevy V8 sound.

That said, I'm definitely not knocking the V6 Camaro. I like that it has improved front to rear weight distribution (52/48 vs 54/46 for the V8 Camaros, including ZL1) due to the lighter engine. And at around 3,475-3,525 lbs depending on trim level, it's also ~200 lbs lighter than the SS. Sub 3,500 lbs is pretty good for a pony car nowadays. Heck, even the 4 cyl Ecoboost Mustang weighs 3650-3700 lbs. and the V6 challenger is heavier than a ZL1.

As far as not driving an SS 6 months out of the year: if one can drive a V6 Camaro, one can also drive an SS, just have to have the proper tire.

[pauly1119]

Like the original title implied No Love for the 6 cylinder. I think the majority of people buying a Camaro or a Corvette for that matter are buying the cars for what they are capable of. There is absolutely nothing wrong with buying a 6 cylinder Camaro although it just isn’t for many of us. I’d bet it’s faster then many of my older V8 cars I’ve had through the years but it’s not about that for a big majority of us. I wish I could still buy a new big block Camaro, for me it’s just about the sounds, smells and the feel of a V8. Just because we voice an opinion doesn’t mean there is anything wrong with a 6 cylinder, if that’s what you want great get 2 of them.

[Hops]

Originally Posted by Idaho2018GTPremium

While the 6th gen V6 Camaro is nice and performs as well as a Camaro SS in most performance tests from 20+ years ago, it's still not that close to a 6th gen SS in terms of overall performance and capability. For example, the 60-130 mph time takes about 60% longer in the RS V6 than the SS. That's not close at all. That's actually a bigger difference than between an SS and ZL1 (SS takes about 40-45% longer 60-130 mph than ZL1). The gap widens as speeds grow since the extra hp of the V8 cars are able to donate more hp to cut through the wind.

1/4 mile trap speed is another indicator of how far apart the two are in acceleration: 102-104 mph for the V6, and 115-118 mph for the SS. Keep in mind the SS is getting to that higher speed ~1.5 seconds earlier than the V6 gets to the lower speed. That's significant.

The SS has better brakes, more grip, much better acceleration, particularly as speeds climb as noted previously, etc. and while it's subjective, the SS has that small block Chevy V8 sound.

That said, I'm definitely not knocking the V6 Camaro. I like that it has improved front to rear weight distribution (52/48 vs 54/46 for the V8 Camaros, including ZL1) due to the lighter engine. And at around 3,475-3,525 lbs depending on trim level, it's also ~200 lbs lighter than the SS. Sub 3,500 lbs is pretty good for a pony car nowadays. Heck, even the 4 cyl Ecoboost Mustang weighs 3650-3700 lbs. and the V6 challenger is heavier than a ZL1.

As far as not driving an SS 6 months out of the year: if one can drive a V6 Camaro, one can also drive an SS, just have to have the proper tire.

Everyone seems to have a different opinion, I just don't think the Camaro is a straight line car, the alpha platform is bench marked to the bmw e46. On Car and Drivers lightning lap, the v6 1le does a 3:04, while the 6 gen SS 1le does a 2:55. Assuming the SS 1le is a few seconds faster than the regular SS, i'd say the the v6 1le does very well compared to the SS.

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