[SJFGTO]

An engine will only gain HP from the increased airflow it is tuned to handle. Our Camaros are tuned for the airflow through the stock intake. Increasing airflow beyond that will have limited effect in terms of increasing actual HP, although the curve may move up or down a bit. The mistake is assuming a modern engine will automatically adjust to efficiently use a significant increase theoretically created by an aftermarket CAI. It wont, without a tune, and most aftermarket CAI’s dont increase enough airflow to make a tune worthwhile.

[TXCSSU]

I find it hard to believe that all of these aftermarket companies have been lying to us this whole time about the few HP gains realized by adding a less restrictive intake. That being said, the last SC vehicle I owned had a wastegate that would dump extra PSI generated when adding bolt-ons, not necessarily enough to counteract any small gains, but generally a tune was preferred when modifying, but not necessary.

I can believe 10-20 HP added to the crank as even at 20+ that's a modest 3% gain from stock (much easier to believe than those outlandish claims by Honda guys that an intake added 50 HP to their 2.0 liter 4-banger) . Also, while I love peak HP/TQ numbers those aren't necessarily going to give you the full picture. If you get a small increase across the entire rev range it's going to make an improvement with each gear shift. All things being equal, a tune will help dial in the power, but a less restrictive intake won't hurt. I don't buy that as soon as the ECU detects more airflow that it can lower the airflow somehow as the whole purpose of the unit is to provide more fuel so that the A/F ratio is consistent.

[BlaqWhole]

Jannetty himself did testing on literally just about every cai that was available in the 5th Gen days and showed what the gains were and people still doubted it. There has been multiple tests by 3rd party reviewers that have shown gains from catbacks, ported TBs, etc. And people still doubt it. So there really is no point in debating this tired subject anyway. No matter how many times people see irrefutable data from a reputable source, they will choose to ignore it.

So get the intake. You'll gain RWHP for those who want to believe. You won't gain anything for those who don't want to believe it.

[Evansa22]

Originally Posted by TXCSSU

I find it hard to believe that all of these aftermarket companies have been lying to us this whole time about the few HP gains realized by adding a less restrictive intake. That being said, the last SC vehicle I owned had a wastegate that would dump extra PSI generated when adding bolt-ons, not necessarily enough to counteract any small gains, but generally a tune was preferred when modifying, but not necessary.

I can believe 10-20 HP added to the crank as even at 20+ that's a modest 3% gain from stock (much easier to believe than those outlandish claims by Honda guys that an intake added 50 HP to their 2.0 liter 4-banger) . Also, while I love peak HP/TQ numbers those aren't necessarily going to give you the full picture. If you get a small increase across the entire rev range it's going to make an improvement with each gear shift. All things being equal, a tune will help dial in the power, but a less restrictive intake won't hurt. I don't buy that as soon as the ECU detects more airflow that it can lower the airflow somehow as the whole purpose of the unit is to provide more fuel so that the A/F ratio is consistent.

I believe the ecu has torque targets and if met or passed, the computer will compensate by closing the throttle blade, or not giving full throttle when commanded on the stock tune. I've dealt with some of this when having the car tuned, wasn't giving 99.6% throttle even tho I had it to the floor. Not saying that an intake won't make power but the ecu will somewhat compensate, that being said I do have a big gulp. This is my understanding anyways, take it or leave it

[TXCSSU]

Originally Posted by Evansa22

I believe the ecu has torque targets and if met or passed, the computer will compensate by closing the throttle blade, or not giving full throttle when commanded on the stock tune. I've dealt with some of this when having the car tuned, wasn't giving 99.6% throttle even tho I had it to the floor. Not saying that an intake won't make power but the ecu will somewhat compensate, that being said I do have a big gulp. This is my understanding anyways, take it or leave it

I don't know, would a lower throttle actually decrease the airflow? Seems like airflow is more of an analog condition where what comes in is what comes in. The MAF will only tell the ECU/ECM to increase or decrease the fuel based on the amount of air detected. But like I said earlier, the supercharger may decrease how fast it spins if it's only trying to spin at a certain speed. I personally would like to include a tune, but I also don't see the need to do a tune if you're just installing an intake. I'd prefer to do a tune after throwing on more than a few bolt-ons. Intake, IMO is a good "gateway drug" for the drug of modding.

[Evansa22]

Originally Posted by TXCSSU

I don't know, would a lower throttle actually decrease the airflow? Seems like airflow is more of an analog condition where what comes in is what comes in. The MAF will only tell the ECU/ECM to increase or decrease the fuel based on the amount of air detected. But like I said earlier, the supercharger may decrease how fast it spins if it's only trying to spin at a certain speed. I personally would like to include a tune, but I also don't see the need to do a tune if you're just installing an intake. I'd prefer to do a tune after throwing on more than a few bolt-ons. Intake, IMO is a good "gateway drug" for the drug of modding.

I believe its closing the blade in the throttle body which would decrease airflow, the supercharger should be spinning at a fixed rate based on the pulleys I thought but I guess it has a bypass valve? I'm not sure.

I do agree, just an intake isn't worth tuning, like you said wait until you do a bunch of mods and get the most out of it. Also Not saying their won't be gains with a stock tune and intake, just the engine might dial it back and you don't get the most out of it.
Looks like a nice piece espexially for the stock size or maybe even 95mm throttle bodies

[TXCSSU]

Originally Posted by Evansa22

I believe its closing the blade in the throttle body which would decrease airflow, the supercharger should be spinning at a fixed rate based on the pulleys I thought but I guess it has a bypass valve? I'm not sure.

I do agree, just an intake isn't worth tuning, like you said wait until you do a bunch of mods and get the most out of it. Also Not saying their won't be gains with a stock tune and intake, just the engine might dial it back and you don't get the most out of it.
Looks like a nice piece espexially for the stock size or maybe even 95mm throttle bodies

I'd say the supercharger is probably the biggest question mark. The S/C car I last owned would bleed off anything above 12psi. Having said that, the intake kit I installed making the S/C whine like a small rodent's nuts being lit on fire was worth the price of admission, IMO.

[Alex.ZL1]

Not the first to test on their car obviously. But I am the first on YouTube with it. Install and review in link below. It’s a very nice system. For a closer look at this intake and how it performs on video. Check out the link below!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7eJUYU4W160

[collinms]

The rpm video is exactly what happened when I put a rotofab on my car. My car would get knock in 3rd gear under wot and there would be a quick dip in power. I put the stock intake on and it ran better. Obviously, if I tuned it, it's a non issue, but I'm not spending that kind of money when I only have an intake. So I just run a green filter and ported throttle body with the stock box.

[Daddy_OZL1]

Anyone know when running this Corsa intake would you be able to use a larger coupler at the throttle body after upgrading to a 103mm
What size is the Corsa tube ?

[Mister Will]

I not really sure how an aftermarket CAI is such an improvement over the stock intake. Basically an aftermarket CAI is just a cleaned up version of the OEM.

It wasn't that long ago when the stock intakes were inefficient and poorly designed. Often allowing air through a little gap. The aftermarket CAI opened up the air ways and allowed a substantial amount of air into the engine. It was a simple, easy way to bolt on an extra 15 to 20 HP. As a result, its become a tradition to install a CAI on a performance vehicle.

But today, with the power levels we are talking about. The 15 to 20 HP increase is not very significant and could be matched by other simple factors. In the time of 4th gen Camaros and 5th gen Corvettes with about 300 RWHP, an increase of 20 HP made a difference. But 20 HP on an LT4 its hardly worth the hassle.

Sure they make the engine bay look nice, and increase blower whine. But is that really worth the cost? In California an CARB EO number is required (no aftermarket CAI makers have one now), and it could impact your warranty if the Dealership finds out.

Finally, its your car to do what you want with it.

[HoodCheck]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Jannetty himself did testing on literally just about every cai that was available in the 5th Gen days and showed what the gains were and people still doubted it. There has been multiple tests by 3rd party reviewers that have shown gains from catbacks, ported TBs, etc. And people still doubt it. So there really is no point in debating this tired subject anyway. No matter how many times people see irrefutable data from a reputable source, they will choose to ignore it.

So get the intake. You'll gain RWHP for those who want to believe. You won't gain anything for those who don't want to believe it.

I've seen dyno tests by an aftermarket company trying to prove their CAI was best. They tested all major brands. They published their results even though their own testing showed they lost 3whp; and pretty much EVERY CAI lost power except for a couple. After a computer correction though, even those very light gains would go away (I think the largest was +3whp).
Those tests were done on a 2016 Camaro SS/LT1 motor...so keep in mind, it isn't sucking as much air through either
I've been trying to find those tests again but have been unsuccessful. I suspect the company shut down, because it seemed their startup purpose was a CAI and custom air scoop...perhaps they never overcame the loss, I'm not sure.

BUT, I tend to trust results from a company trying to prove they are better, and instead proving they aren't better, but are middle of the line, losing power with nearly every other brand out there vs. a larger company, lets say K&N or something, trying to market theirs with the best values they can find. To me though; a dyno test right after installation isn't the final say...install it, dyno, then a month later, try to dyno again (trying to get similar climate conditions of course)...that would tell the real story post computer correction.

My own personal experience with them on many many cars is that I have only ever witnessed a decrease in gas mileage and increase in noise, thats it (thats across MANY camaros, firebirds, SUVs, etc).