[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by redcoats1976

@ martinjim...so should we count out a really bold new design,something 2 door,maybe hatchback,with no radiator needed,something swoopy and sexy enough to make even the diehard ICE fans look twice? is the next harley earl already rising in the GM styling ranks and getting ready to blow our socks off?i want to believe...

I wouldn’t rule anything out in terms of design. It’s less a matter of “what” than a matter of “when”. In the short term and the mid term, the focus will be on recovering investment. Those tens of billions of dollars invested in battery and platform development have to be repaid. So expect more 6-digit price tag launch vehicles followed by high volume moderate priced products (CUV). When those segments are saturated with product then we might begin to see more emotionally centered product designs come to market.

In a scenario where a jaw dropping sports coupe and a bland CUV have similar unit profit potential, guess which one gets the green light? The one that will bring in the most volume. That would no doubt be the CUV.

[raptor5244]

Single-speed EV is actually notorious for this: sure, they have great low-end torque and AWD allows them to pull off good 0-60, but after 60 MPH, things do start to change. They will drop out of their optimal RPM range and since there is no gear to shift, energy consumption and power get worse and worse at higher speeds. There is a reason why Taycan uses a 2-speed gearbox.

This is true and is the case in the Tesla Model 3 I own. We talk about this on the Tesla forum a lot and the general consensus is that we will see this Plaid motor tech eventually trickle down to lower priced performance trims at some point vs. trying to leverage a 2-speed transmission from ZF, etc.

With this kind of power curve you don't need to add the complexity, weight, maintenance, etc. of a transmission. Tesla evidently tried using a transmission in the early roadster and the torque ripped it apart so they have gone to a single speed reduction gear setup and haven't looked back. In the Plaid power ramps up to 1020hp at it reaches 60mph and stays flat for what seems like forever. 1/4 in low 9s. It actually quite silly. It is impressive but lacks the needed drama at the same time you get confused how you feel about it.

I think most enthusiasts will like it at first, appreciate the smoothness and NVH benefits but then once the novelty wears off they will be longing for something with more character and driving engagement. That has been my experience so far but to each their own.



https://insideevs.com/news/513388/te...id-drive-unit/

[raptor5244]

Pretty funny. By the way, this is what I am talking about. This is guy is doing a pull, 0-60mph in 2.25 and 1/4mi in 9.42 and there is no drama. It is impressive and boring at the same time.

[Efi69Cam]

Originally Posted by SS_Don

[*]Nuclear - Too expensive to build and maintain, too long to build, what to do with the nuclear waste, and too dangerous. Anyone remember Chernobyl, Fukushima, Kyshtym, Windscale, and Three Mile Island?

All true points about fission energy, for the 1953 technology the government has locked the industry into.

The us navy and the country of France have been able to successfully utilize nuclear energy for decades without incident. Granted they may have screwed up, but a radiological disaster is kinda hard to hide, as the soviets found out.

Nuclear fission is our best stopgap while we get fusion figured out.

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by Efi69Cam

All true points about fission energy, for the 1953 technology the government has locked the industry into.

The us navy and the country of France have been able to successfully utilize nuclear energy for decades without incident. Granted they may have screwed up, but a radiological disaster is kinda hard to hide, as the soviets found out.

Nuclear fission is our best stopgap while we get fusion figured out.

China just demonstrated 5x the temp of the sun and held it for over 100 seconds. Not too shabby.

[redcoats1976]

yeah,but i wouldnt want to be around if fusion gets out of control.but then again,i guess i wouldnt be...

[Aragorn]

Nuclear power has come a long way, but it has to be executed correctly. Also, uranium can be found almost anywhere.

[TXCSSU]

Originally Posted by Altered Carbon

Exactly how fast and hard does it shit?

With Taco Bell as its source of fuel.... very fast and very hard?

[Need4Camaro]

From what I heard of Fusion, it doesn’t meltdown, it just simply stops working like a light bulb without power in the event of failure.

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

From what I heard of Fusion, it doesn’t meltdown, it just simply stops working like a light bulb without power in the event of failure.

Yes, runaway fusion was never an issue.

In fact, sustaining it for a few milliseconds, then a few seconds via insanely complex and expensive technologies, with zero or minimal net energy production, seems to have been all the progress since my early childhood in the 1970's, when viable nuclear fusion was said to be "around the corner".

I'd love this power generation method to succeed, because it would easily provide ample supply for the entire world's energy needs for centuries to come, so if my information is obsolete, I'll be happy to hear some better news.

[nitrojedi]

Originally Posted by Number 3

They are pretty transparent. A lot of my learning has come from government websites. The Breakdown of carbon emission sources is easily found on .gov websites.

As for the overall impact? Tons of articles on that as well, just haven’t found those on the government websites.



Never said it was as engaging but did say it’s better . For me, I’ll take a DCT over a manual or true auto all day long, but I get why peopl3 like to row the shifter and us3 a clutch. That is just getting to be fewer and fewer people. My worst driving experience was a trip from Detroit to Cleveland several many years ago in a Z06. Nthe several hour traffic jam coming home I was reallllllly wishing for an automatic. And I really don’t care to be that engaged on my drive to work but JMO. If you go to the track or have access to some enjoyable roads different discussion. In the Chicago suburbs I don’t have that access. Didn’t in the Detroit suburbs when I lived there. It’s why I no longer have motorcycles :(

Respect your position!

cannot trust any government environmental propaganda, sadly activists/zealots have had far too much influence on policy and statistics.. To date we have no actual physical evidence in a lab environment that a few extra PPM of C02 in the atmosphere causes any warming..all we have are computer models and proxy studies... no physical lab experiments proving the core of the theory... they use propaganda over proof

[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by nitrojedi

cannot trust any government environmental propaganda, sadly activists/zealots have had far too much influence on policy and statistics.. To date we have no actual physical evidence in a lab environment that a few extra PPM of C02 in the atmosphere causes any warming..all we have are computer models and proxy studies... no physical lab experiments proving the core of the theory... they use propaganda over proof

What does proof look like in a form that you would believe?

[nitrojedi]

Originally Posted by Martinjlm

What does proof look like in a form that you would believe?

they claim a few PPM of C02 is creating global warming, the physics are so basic a lab experiment would be easy to setup, issue is the theory doesn't play well with real world physics and cannot be expressed in any sort of experiment, which is why they use proxy science and zealot/activist created computer models. Proxy science is really stupid too, we could statistically prove almost anything this way. Even worse the groups that create these computer models always go for top shock value and always always express worse case scenario which is nothing but fear porn, they do the same crap with CV19 modelling

[crysalis_01]

Originally Posted by nitrojedi

they claim a few PPM of C02 is creating global warming, the physics are so basic a lab experiment would be easy to setup, issue is the theory doesn't play well with real world physics and cannot be expressed in any sort of experiment, which is why they use proxy science and zealot/activist created computer models. Proxy science is really stupid too, we could statistically prove almost anything this way. Even worse the groups that create these computer models always go for top shock value and always always express worse case scenario which is nothing but fear porn, they do the same crap with CV19 modelling

[search for 2024 Camaro rumors intensifies]