[MightyBobo]

Originally Posted by Mark R

Here's the problem with the arguments made by the retards who want us off of oil. Gasoline is about half of what is in a barrel of crude oil, and diesel is about another 20%. Then you have asphalt, propane, plastics, etc.

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/can...ne-barrel-oil/

Stop pulling crude out of the ground and almost the entirety of modern life is over as we know it. We will all be back to the 1880's.

Calling people pushing for EV's and minimizing unnecessary fossil fuel usage "retards"...that's a pro move.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by serper3

IDK, I think that is why these silverado EVs are going to be $100k+ for a while. dont see a price for a cheaper version yet.

Also, 400 mile range sounds great, just dont do truck things with your truck like tow something. 200 if you are lucky.

i just think we arent there yet to were the tech and infrastructure makes it worth it for a daily. idk if i will ever be on board with an ev as a fun car but we will see.

The first Tesla vehicle was $109K, you can now get a model 3 for $45K. Once the larger manufacturers start mass producing these vehicles, the prices will plummet.

[Mark R]

Originally Posted by AMOR

The amount of carbon emitted to manufacture an electric vehicle is equivalent to ~10 years of driving your existing ICE car (granted that you did not remove cats). Furthermore, if you have an electric vehicle already - it still emits carbon because you need to charge it, and that electricity does not come exclusively from solar panels and wind generators. Then imagine if everyone will switch to electric tomorrow, how much power we need to produce to charge those cars? Carbon free electric cars? Yeah right!

Yup. The government crashes the automotive industry and the US economy for "carbon" while China and India spew an ever increasing amount into the atmosphere, while simultaneously trashing the oceans with massive amounts of plastic pollution.

One might think the destruction of the US is on purpose.......

[EDFHOBBIES]

I don't know about u but a lipo fire in rc goes up quicker than nitro from my experience. Maybe a car will have some casing around it.

[Mark R]

Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Calling people pushing for EV's and minimizing unnecessary fossil fuel usage "retards"...that's a pro move.

Thanks. The government wants us off oil, and they are using their coercive powers to push us in that direction, despite what the people want. Everything government touches is turned to shit, so I rest my case.

[MightyBobo]

Originally Posted by Mark R

Thanks. The government wants us off oil, and they are using their coercive powers to push us in that direction, despite what the people want. Everything government touches is turned to shit, so I rest my case.

"despite what the people want" - what do "the people" want, exactly?

[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by Mark R

Here's the problem with the arguments made by the retards who want us off of oil. Gasoline is about half of what is in a barrel of crude oil, and diesel is about another 20%. Then you have asphalt, propane, plastics, etc.

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/can...ne-barrel-oil/

Stop pulling crude out of the ground and almost the entirety of modern life is over as we know it. We will all be back to the 1880's.

I don’t know of anyone advocating not continuing to draw crude. Most people realize that anything plastic or rubber requires oil. What people are advocating is to stop emitting carbon from burning it into the atmosphere. Which, if you think about it, means more of each barrel produced can be diverted to other uses, like jet fuel, plastics, and rubber.

Can we get this thread back on track? There’s tons of other threads dedicated to kvetching about EVs.

[MightyBobo]

Originally Posted by Martinjlm

I don’t know of anyone advocating not continuing to draw crude. Most people realize that anything plastic or rubber requires oil. What people are advocating is to stop emitting carbon from burning it into the atmosphere. Which, if you think about it, means more of each barrel produced can be diverted to other uses, like jet fuel, plastics, and rubber.

This. Send oil to places it's better used for, not freaking leisure sports cars and stuff.

He's listening to the narrative he wants to hear, it's ok.

[Vigilante375]

What's more idiotic are the States that are pushing for EVs but they don't realize that the power grid won't be able to handle the load.

Do they not understand how much power would be consumed if, let's say, 100,000 EVs are plugged into the grid at the same time? Let alone over 1 million? That's on top of everyone having their AC units on, washers and dryers running and so on. Doesn't Cali already have rolling blackouts in the summer?

I don't mind the EV progress but don't force it onto us and not realize the power grid isn't going to handle it or that there will need to be a crap room of charging stations installed at parking lots for apartments, restaurants, etc.

Geez, this thread got derailed....

[AMOR]

Originally Posted by MightyBobo

This. Send oil to places it's better used for, not freaking leisure sports cars and stuff.

He's listening to the narrative he wants to hear, it's ok.

Says guy who "ordered 6.2 liter sports car" lol

[MightyBobo]

Originally Posted by AMOR

Says guy who "ordered 6.2 liter sports car" lol

Knowing full-well I'll be paying a small fortune for fuel in the future. And also knowing and accepting that fossil fuel-based cars are dying. It is what it is.

I also pre-ordered the Silverado EV First Edition today. What do I win?

[Mark R]

Originally Posted by MightyBobo

This. Send oil to places it's better used for, not freaking leisure sports cars and stuff.

He's listening to the narrative he wants to hear, it's ok.

When are you selling your Camaro to do your part?

[MightyBobo]

Originally Posted by Mark R

When are you selling your Camaro to do your part?

Nobody is forcing anyone to sell anything. That's kinda the beauty of this. You're making it seem like people are being coerced by the big bad G-Men to immediately sell off their ICE vehicles for EVs right now.

You're not. You can keep it as long as you'd like, and for as long as you're willing to pay the fossil fuel prices.

Ill sell my Camaro when I'm ready to sell it. Just like you can. I imagine you'll be long dead before ICE vehicles are banned. Settle down.

[Silveradoss573]

Originally Posted by MightyBobo

"despite what the people want" - what do "the people" want, exactly?

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