Used '18 ZL1 - Page 4

KingLT1 · 11-30-2021, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jamala00

Ya, I did check Vroom and they will give me 6k more then I paid for it. So I suppose your right.. It's kind of a wash. I'll have to give it some thought. Couldn't drive that car home right now either as it's below freezing temps here in WI now. Summer only tires in < 40 degree temps are not good.

Those tires are fine for a trip home long as the roads are dry.

zxspeedspec · 11-30-2021, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jamala00

Right... Yep, if they want to hang on to it until spring in hopes they can get $70k in spring, more power to them. The thing is, I'm happy with my 2SS, I'd upgrade to the ZL1 for the right price, but I'm not heart broken if I didn't. I don't have to upgrade, they have to sell the car.

Reminds me of this spring. I found an '18 CVO Harley StreetGlide I wanted locally. I offered the guy exactly what he was asking for it on Marketplace. He had is listed for a good honest price. He told me he had other interests so he was jacking up the price. I said... great, good luck with your sale and I moved on. I saw a couple month later he still had it listed on Marketplace for less then what I offered him. In the mean time I found one in New Mexico for far less and had it shipped up. I will never overpay for a toy. The right deal always comes along.

They aren't holding on it to until Spring. They'll get rid of it at auction in a few weeks and pretend they did.

jamala00 · 11-30-2021, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by zxspeedspec

They aren't holding on it to until Spring. They'll get rid of it at auction in a few weeks and pretend they did.

That could very well be. They have my contact info if they want to accept my offer.

m6-lt1 · 11-30-2021, 12:37 PM

It’s not going to be a wash selling your camaro for 6k more and paying 65k for a 18 zl1. Used cars have gone up x percentage. If a used SS and a used zl1 both went up 20% higher, you’re still losing more money getting the zl1 now than if you sold your ss for what it was worth prepandemic and bought a used zl1 prepandemic. The reason you’re losing more money is because 20% (random percent but this is roughly what used cars have appreciated by) of a higher number (zl1 price) is going to be a few thousand more than 20% of a lower number (SS price)

An 18 zl1 in late 2019/early 2020 would probably have been listed at roughly 55k while also being a newer vehicle than it is now and you probably would be able to negotiate from that price too.

jamala00 · 11-30-2021, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by m6-lt1

It’s not going to be a wash selling your camaro for 6k more and paying 65k for a 18 zl1. Used cars have gone up x percentage. If a used SS and a used zl1 both went up 20% higher, you’re still losing more money getting the zl1 now than if you sold your ss for what it was worth prepandemic and bought a used zl1 prepandemic. The reason you’re losing more money is because 20% (random percent but this is roughly what used cars have appreciated by) of a higher number (zl1 price) is going to be a few thousand more than 20% of a lower number (SS price)

An 18 zl1 in late 2019/early 2020 would probably have been listed at roughly 55k while also being a newer vehicle than it is now and you probably would be able to negotiate from that price too.

Ya... Good point... I've pretty much given up on it. I'll hang onto my paid for SS and just enjoy it. I added the Red Calipers, blacked it out, added the PowerStop rotors and pads.. etc... The ZL1 would be more power, but I like to drive my Camaro below 40 degree temps, in the rain, etc.. So I'd want to swap tires. I love the red Calipers, so I'd have to swap those too. Yep, it's more HP/Tq, but I can live with what my 2SS has anyway. Sell my car and fork out another $30k+... Just not seeing it be worth it... "For Me"...!

arpad_m · 11-30-2021, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jamala00

Ya... Good point... I've pretty much given up on it. I'll hang onto my paid for SS and just enjoy it. I added the Red Calipers, blacked it out, added the PowerStop rotors and pads.. etc... The ZL1 would be more power, but I like to drive my Camaro below 40 degree temps, in the rain, etc.. So I'd want to swap tires. I love the red Calipers, so I'd have to swap those too. Yep, it's more HP/Tq, but I can live with what my 2SS has anyway. Sell my car and fork out another $30k+... Just not seeing it be worth it... "For Me"...!

Look at my signature, brother. "You Have Options"

jamala00 · 11-30-2021, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by arpad_m

Look at my signature, brother. "You Have Options"

You do all that yourself or do you know a good shop?

arpad_m · 11-30-2021, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jamala00

You do all that yourself or do you know a good shop?

Nah, I'm still a noob. All power mods and tuning were done by Jannetty Racing in CT, basically all except for wheels, brakes and suspension. Car's a perfect Jekyll & Hyde vehicle: very close to stock when I want that, and a beast when I need something crazier.

Gunkk · 11-30-2021, 04:07 PM

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Warning... Just kind of a rant...

So I've been keeping an eye on this used ZL1 just over the border. (WI/IL border) It's pretty much winter here in WI, so I figured I'd call them and see if they were willing to negotiate at all. They weren't and I figured as much. I told them I'd come down and write them a check for $64k. They passed and said, they'll hang onto it until spring and they'll get $70k for it then.

I know the used car market is crazy right now, but this is still just a Chevy Camaro. It's not a 1970 Chevelle. Are people nutz enough to pay new ZL1 prices for a 3 year old used Camaro?

Interest rates are gonna rise. Market tanked today and will go down another 5-7% in the next 60 days.

They'll be wishing they took your offer for that car if they wait until spring.

jamala00 · 11-30-2021, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by arpad_m

Nah, I'm still a noob. All power mods and tuning were done by Jannetty Racing in CT, basically all except for wheels, brakes and suspension. Car's a perfect Jekyll & Hyde vehicle: very close to stock when I want that, and a beast when I need something crazier.

That's awesome. You got a rocket ship there brother... I should read people sigs more often... lol, had no idea you did all that work

jamala00 · 11-30-2021, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunkk

Interest rates are gonna rise. Market tanked today and will go down another 5-7% in the next 60 days.

They'll be wishing they took your offer for that car if they wait until spring.

Don't remind me, watching my investments fade away...LOL...

It will be interesting if they reach back out to me.

L78toLT1 · 11-30-2021, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jamala00

Don't remind me, watching my investments fade away...LOL...

It will be interesting if they reach back out to me.

If markets never tanked, there would never be any good buying opportunities. As soon as the street figures out that the new Covid variant isn't the end of the world, it'll bounce right back.

XQZMYZ · 11-30-2021, 05:52 PM

I paid $69k MSRP for my 21 ZL1 in September. I see dealers in my area regularly listing used ones for over MSRP, I don't understand how they are selling.

jamala00 · 11-30-2021, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by XQZMYZ

I paid $69k MSRP for my 21 ZL1 in September. I see dealers in my area regularly listing used ones for over MSRP, I don't understand how they are selling.

I know right... I did a build your own '22 ZL1 Wild Cherry Tintcoat and it was just under $69k bran new. Why someone would pay $67,500.00 for a used '18 is a good as a guess for me too.

11-30-2021, 12:37 PM	#46
m6-lt1 Drives: 2012 Shelby GT500 Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,715	It’s not going to be a wash selling your camaro for 6k more and paying 65k for a 18 zl1. Used cars have gone up x percentage. If a used SS and a used zl1 both went up 20% higher, you’re still losing more money getting the zl1 now than if you sold your ss for what it was worth prepandemic and bought a used zl1 prepandemic. The reason you’re losing more money is because 20% (random percent but this is roughly what used cars have appreciated by) of a higher number (zl1 price) is going to be a few thousand more than 20% of a lower number (SS price) An 18 zl1 in late 2019/early 2020 would probably have been listed at roughly 55k while also being a newer vehicle than it is now and you probably would be able to negotiate from that price too.

11-30-2021, 05:52 PM	#55
XQZMYZ Drives: 2021 ZL1 Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: WA Posts: 16	I paid $69k MSRP for my 21 ZL1 in September. I see dealers in my area regularly listing used ones for over MSRP, I don't understand how they are selling.

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