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Old 11-12-2021, 10:35 AM   #183
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My C8 feels much quicker than my ZL1 and the 0-60 numbers bare that out. But the LT2 in my C8 never throws me back in the seat like the LT4 does in the Camaro. Two different driving experiences

It sounds like GM has designed the LT6 to rev very fast and thus reach its power band without much effort. I get the impression the Z06 will be and feel very fast but it will never throw you back in the seat the LT4 and LT5 can do.
2:30 in should be a pretty typical roll

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Old 11-12-2021, 10:43 AM   #184
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Old 11-12-2021, 10:48 AM   #185
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One of the big Mustang shops tried guestimating a dyno graph based on the peak numbers published and comparisons to the Voodoo. Who knows how accurate it'll be, probably not at all, but interesting nonetheless.

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Old 11-12-2021, 10:49 AM   #186
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Although this guy ran an 11.17 @123.

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Old 11-12-2021, 06:57 PM   #187
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Yes - Impressed

Was at Petit Le Mans at Road Atlanta and got to see close up, serious machine, hats off Chevy ,,,
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Old 11-12-2021, 07:48 PM   #188
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Its amazing how far we’ve come since the C4 era…. LOL!
24yrs (C5 came out 97’ correct?) I mean even compared to the C5 cut away.

Side note. Anyone have one of these for a gen6 ZL1? Not sure ive ever seen one?
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Old 11-13-2021, 04:22 PM   #189
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And both of those cars would get absolutely smoked by the new Z06, to each their own.
Smoked? LOL - The C7 ZR1 will not get smoked on a Road Course or drag strip to the new C8 Z06. On equal tires (Cup 2Rs), a C7 Z06 will most likely be equal to it on a Road Course. The drag strip is where the ME design shines, along with the DCT. But, even then, on equal tires, I think the C7 Z06 will be close to a C8 Z06.

The C8 Z06 is a beautiful car. Even in it's lightest trim, 1LZ with Z07 with Carbon Revolution Wheels, it will still be 3700 pounds. That is more about 80 pounds more than a 1ZR ZTK ZR1. I think the C8 Z06 is a really nice option to choose from over other brands that will cost significantly more.

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Old 11-13-2021, 04:55 PM   #190
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On equal tires (Cup 2Rs), a C7 Z06 will most likely be equal to it on a Road Course.
I highly doubt it - the C7 Z06 is a real handful, even on a relatively open track like VIR (full course). The ZR1 may beat it, but if so not by much - this new Z06 will be a roadcourse weapon, that's what they designed it to do

Cutaways are very cool, but I hope they have some effective guards for those radiators, aside from a coarse plastic grill like on the ZL1

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Old 11-13-2021, 05:00 PM   #191
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I’ve just recently driven a C8 Z51 package (bone stock) on track. It was at a private track day rental (entire track rented for a special private venue). I’m a driving coach and was asked to be there to help out. There also was a new Shelby GT500 Track Pack (stock) which I also drove. In the past I’ve driven a stock C7 Z06/07, on the same track.

Impressions: holy shit the C8 Z51 is amazing. (and remember I’m old school and love front engine manual trans big power; hence my personal ZLE). the new C8 Z51 felt incredibly well balanced, and tight, and fantastic transitions and body control. No squeaks or rattles either. Great brakes. Decent power; fantastic transmission (I don’t like DCTs cause I feel they take some of the skill and fun out of driving, but this DCT is great). This car somehow feels MUCH lighter and more nimble than it has any right to feel given it’s 3700 lb weight. C7 Z06/07 felt much much heavier and larger when I drove it compared to the C8 Z51. It’s crazy how much more nimble the C8 Z51 felt. Right out of the box into the first corner.

in my opinion I’d say the C8 Z51, is a ‘better’ car than the C7 Z06/07 was. I bet it’s very close in lap times too. And when the C8 Z06/07 arrives? With another 175 hp? And even more importantly with even better brakes and better suspension tuning and huge aero? There is no way in hell that it won’t best the C7 ZR1 on the track. No. Way. This new mid engine C8 platform is that good (and it pains me to say that lol)

Then I drove the Shelby GT500 carbon track pack. I really thought that I’d fall in love with it. Nope. Nope. Nope. Our ZLEs are way way more fun on track. The Mustang felt so goddam heavy and no good in tight transitions (this was at NJMP Thunderbolt btw). It’s body control was no where near as good as the C8 Z51 (and my ZLE is superior to the Shelby by a significant amount too). Braking from high speed was a bit nervous feeling (not terrible but it swayed noticeably). I felt that in the C7 Z06/07 a bit too. Nervous under hard braking. my ZLE is rock solid in that department. The Shelby pulled extremely hard in a straight line and sounded glorious. The DCT is extremely good in it too. But I was totally let down by the driving experience on track. Hands down the C8 Z51 felt so much more at home on the track.

When the C8 Z06/07 hits the streets and tracks? It’s gonna break some hearts. Mainly those of other exotic car owners (think GT3RS and Ferrari 488 etc etc).
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Old 11-13-2021, 05:15 PM   #192
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I highly doubt it - the C7 Z06 is a real handful, even on a relatively open track like VIR (full course). The ZR1 may beat it, but if so not by much - this new Z08 will be a roadcourse weapon, that's what they designed it to do

Cutaways are very cool, but I hope they have some effective guards for those radiators, aside from a coarse plastic grill like on the ZL1

I was thinking The Ring - The C7 Z06 ran a 7:12. Mero said the Cup2Rs are worth 10-12 seconds, so let's call it 7:02. We will see when the C8 Z06 time is released.
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Old 11-13-2021, 05:20 PM   #193
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Smoked? LOL - The C7 ZR1 will not get smoked on a Road Course or drag strip to the new C8 Z06. On equal tires (Cup 2Rs), a C7 Z06 will most likely be equal to it on a Road Course. The drag strip is where the ME design shines, along with the DCT. But, even then, on equal tires, I think the C7 Z06 will be close to a C8 Z06.

The C8 Z06 is a beautiful car. Even in it's lightest trim, 1LZ with Z07 with Carbon Revolution Wheels, it will still be 3700 pounds. That is more about 80 pounds more than a 1ZR ZTK ZR1. I think the C8 Z06 is a really nice option to choose from over other brands that will cost significantly more.
Real racing vs bench racing. I'll take the C8 Z06.
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Old 11-13-2021, 05:21 PM   #194
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I’ve just recently driven a C8 Z51 package (bone stock) on track. It was at a private track day rental (entire track rented for a special private venue). I’m a driving coach and was asked to be there to help out. There also was a new Shelby GT500 Track Pack (stock) which I also drove. In the past I’ve driven a stock C7 Z06/07, on the same track.

Impressions: holy shit the C8 Z51 is amazing. (and remember I’m old school and love front engine manual trans big power; hence my personal ZLE). the new C8 Z51 felt incredibly well balanced, and tight, and fantastic transitions and body control. No squeaks or rattles either. Great brakes. Decent power; fantastic transmission (I don’t like DCTs cause I feel they take some of the skill and fun out of driving, but this DCT is great). This car somehow feels MUCH lighter and more nimble than it has any right to feel given it’s 3700 lb weight. C7 Z06/07 felt much much heavier and larger when I drove it compared to the C8 Z51. It’s crazy how much more nimble the C8 Z51 felt. Right out of the box into the first corner.

in my opinion I’d say the C8 Z51, is a ‘better’ car than the C7 Z06/07 was. I bet it’s very close in lap times too. And when the C8 Z06/07 arrives? With another 175 hp? And even more importantly with even better brakes and better suspension tuning and huge aero? There is no way in hell that it won’t best the C7 ZR1 on the track. No. Way. This new mid engine C8 platform is that good (and it pains me to say that lol)

Then I drove the Shelby GT500 carbon track pack. I really thought that I’d fall in love with it. Nope. Nope. Nope. Our ZLEs are way way more fun on track. The Mustang felt so goddam heavy and no good in tight transitions (this was at NJMP Thunderbolt btw). It’s body control was no where near as good as the C8 Z51 (and my ZLE is superior to the Shelby by a significant amount too). Braking from high speed was a bit nervous feeling (not terrible but it swayed noticeably). I felt that in the C7 Z06/07 a bit too. Nervous under hard braking. my ZLE is rock solid in that department. The Shelby pulled extremely hard in a straight line and sounded glorious. The DCT is extremely good in it too. But I was totally let down by the driving experience on track. Hands down the C8 Z51 felt so much more at home on the track.

When the C8 Z06/07 hits the streets and tracks? It’s gonna break some hearts. Mainly those of other exotic car owners (think GT3RS and Ferrari 488 etc etc).
Yep, I had a C8 Z51 for a year before I just sold it. People that haven't driven one really don't know what a HUGE upgrade the mid engine is. The C8 Z06 is going to be a track animal.
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Old 11-13-2021, 06:40 PM   #195
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I’ve just recently driven a C8 Z51 package (bone stock) on track. It was at a private track day rental (entire track rented for a special private venue). I’m a driving coach and was asked to be there to help out. There also was a new Shelby GT500 Track Pack (stock) which I also drove. In the past I’ve driven a stock C7 Z06/07, on the same track.

Impressions: holy shit the C8 Z51 is amazing. (and remember I’m old school and love front engine manual trans big power; hence my personal ZLE). the new C8 Z51 felt incredibly well balanced, and tight, and fantastic transitions and body control. No squeaks or rattles either. Great brakes. Decent power; fantastic transmission (I don’t like DCTs cause I feel they take some of the skill and fun out of driving, but this DCT is great). This car somehow feels MUCH lighter and more nimble than it has any right to feel given it’s 3700 lb weight. C7 Z06/07 felt much much heavier and larger when I drove it compared to the C8 Z51. It’s crazy how much more nimble the C8 Z51 felt. Right out of the box into the first corner.

in my opinion I’d say the C8 Z51, is a ‘better’ car than the C7 Z06/07 was. I bet it’s very close in lap times too. And when the C8 Z06/07 arrives? With another 175 hp? And even more importantly with even better brakes and better suspension tuning and huge aero? There is no way in hell that it won’t best the C7 ZR1 on the track. No. Way. This new mid engine C8 platform is that good (and it pains me to say that lol)

Then I drove the Shelby GT500 carbon track pack. I really thought that I’d fall in love with it. Nope. Nope. Nope. Our ZLEs are way way more fun on track. The Mustang felt so goddam heavy and no good in tight transitions (this was at NJMP Thunderbolt btw). It’s body control was no where near as good as the C8 Z51 (and my ZLE is superior to the Shelby by a significant amount too). Braking from high speed was a bit nervous feeling (not terrible but it swayed noticeably). I felt that in the C7 Z06/07 a bit too. Nervous under hard braking. my ZLE is rock solid in that department. The Shelby pulled extremely hard in a straight line and sounded glorious. The DCT is extremely good in it too. But I was totally let down by the driving experience on track. Hands down the C8 Z51 felt so much more at home on the track.

When the C8 Z06/07 hits the streets and tracks? It’s gonna break some hearts. Mainly those of other exotic car owners (think GT3RS and Ferrari 488 etc etc).
Agreed, I drove a C8 Z51 on track as well and it was excellent. For the street, I find the supercharged power of the ZL1 to be more fun but on the track the mid engine driving dynamics of the C8 Z51 would be my preference. The C8 Z06 is going to be next level on the track.
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Old 11-14-2021, 02:06 AM   #196
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I was thinking The Ring - The C7 Z06 ran a 7:12. Mero said the Cup2Rs are worth 10-12 seconds, so let's call it 7:02. We will see when the C8 Z06 time is released.
Rumor is the new Z06 will be in the 6s - their objective was to beat the new GT3
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