[dyingbreed]

Originally Posted by Camarokid1996

Get the car that fits your budget and has the options you want... literally that simple. I'd get the LT1, but not for anywhere near the 50k price you listed as that defeats the entire purpose of the LT1. At that point, get a 2SS or make the jump to Ford and get a Mustang

How would you buy a LT1 vert for no where near 50k? This is the sticker price with tax. There is zero chance I will find a used car spec'd like that so I have to order new.
Tell me more about the Mustang comment. Why did you suggest it? What is better? Quality? Options? Price?

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by dyingbreed

You got right to the heart of the matter. Heck my LT1 spec includes Recaro too. Safety/visibility is the top one giving me pause. The rest I would 'like' but I do think I will miss them honestly. So it is $49 for the LT1, $55.7 for 2SS and lose the Recaro which I really want or $57.5 for 2SS with Recaro. That's $8k for the safety bits. It is not that I can't afford $8k. It's more like: is a Chevy Camaro worth $60k to me (with some light personalization added)? That is a tough one. For ~$60 I start to wonder what else I should look at. For context, I drive a 2012 Audi A6 3.0T Prestige (top trim) which has great safety options including adaptive cruise control which disappointingly you can't get on any Camaro and I said I'd never buy a car again without. But here I am for the V8, stick convertible which I have wanted since a kid. What else is there? Mustang I suppose but they seemed a bit more $ and I do not like the look as much. Also I am working from home a lot now so I feel like I can get away with something more fun and less practical.

(I'm ruling out the 1SS, not cheap enough and not complete enough)

I understand, this is indeed a lot of money for a Camaro. The lack of adaptive cruise control is baffling, especially since GM does offer it on other vehicles.

Recaro seats aren't a must IMO, my 2SS doesn't have them and after trying them out in ZL1s, they certainly hold you in place better, but unless you pull 1+ lateral g's regularly (== track use), the standard leather seats will be just fine.

However, all said and done, there is nothing like the rumbling cross plane crank V8 experience, and even more so in a nice convertible that has seat heaters/coolers, fairly good audio, three seat memory slots, rear camera mirror, all the safety goodies etc. Whether it's worth $55k is 100% your call... prices have been going up like crazy, so it isn't like you could get a German rival for this price. These also seem to be the very last years to make it happen.

[KingLT1]

Originally Posted by dyingbreed

I thought the lights were same on all trim levels now. All LED. Are you talking about nicer looking DRLs on SS?

The LT1 has a entirely different front fascia...he is saying that he prefers the front fascia on the SS.

Side note I would buy a used 2019 Zl1 before I spent that kind of money on a 2SS. If willing to travel you can still find them for around 60k CPO with a better warranty then new.

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by KingLT1

The LT1 has a entirely different front fascia...he is saying that he prefers the front fascia on the SS.

Side note I would buy a used 2019 Zl1 before I spent that kind of money on a 2SS. If willing to travel you can still find them for around 60k CPO with a better warranty then new.

Fair point as well. Heck, I would buy a 2018 ZL1 vert, but that's just me

[sactownbwoy]

I bought an LT1, my only requirements were V8 and manual. The LT1 fit the bill for what I wanted. The 2SS has nice stuff but for me it wasn't worth it since I wanted as little extra stuff as possible because I intend to mod the car, interior and exterior. Why pay for stuff that I would be taking out. Mine did come with the NPP exhaust which I like.

But if you want the extra stuff, just go with the 2SS.

To one of the other posters about adaptive cruise control. I'm pretty sure no manual car comes with it. When I was cross shopping the Challenger and Mustang, when you selected manual, there was a not that adaptive cruise control only works with the automatics.

[tommcd24]

A thought on the safety features to consider - if you feel like you will drive with the top down nearly all the time, then the rear view camera, blind spot warnings, etc. have less value.

But I’m with you that those were features I absolutely wanted. Enough that the only trims I seriously considered were the 3LT and 2SS. Constraints forced me to the 2SS and I’m fine with that.

The up-level tech clusters, 8” infotainment w/ Bose, and a feature you haven’t mentioned, the HUD were also very important to me.

[supercab78]

Originally Posted by Camarokid1996

Get the car that fits your budget and has the options you want... literally that simple. I'd get the LT1, but not for anywhere near the 50k price you listed as that defeats the entire purpose of the LT1. At that point, get a 2SS or make the jump to Ford and get a Mustang

The thing is Mustang verts tops don't look as cool when the top is down. The top is not covered by the a hard panel. I think they look like shit compared to the Camaro's.

[Camarokid1996]

Originally Posted by dyingbreed

How would you buy a LT1 vert for no where near 50k? This is the sticker price with tax. There is zero chance I will find a used car spec'd like that so I have to order new.
Tell me more about the Mustang comment. Why did you suggest it? What is better? Quality? Options? Price?

I understand an LT1 vert would be 50k, I'm saying I wouldn't pay that for a LT1 as you can get a 2SS for a bit more. The entire purpose of the LT1 was to be an affordable base v8 model and at 50k, it is not.

I suggested the Mustang because is may be more affordable in convertible form (I don't know). Either way though, it should be considered when your buget is around 50k

[Chutzpah]

After owning both a Zl1 and a 1SS convertible, my feeling is that the “extras” (not including HP) are nice, but not worth the extra money (unless you could snag a year end deal, which isn’t happening in 2021). The recaro seats are comfortable, but they inhibit entry and exit a bit (especially in tight parking spots, with limited door opening clearance) I felt that upgraded safety features weren’t necessary with a convertible (assuming you primarily drive with the top down). The cloth seats have the same cushions as the 2SS. (So not mushy)

If your add on options for the either of the lower trim models (1SS or LT1) are within a couple grand of the 2SS, its a no brainer, get the 2SS.

BTW, forward collision alert isn’t available on the convertible and the rear camera mirror is just about useless after dusk.

[supercab78]

dyingbreed ; I feel you should be informed that the convertibles 1ss and 2ss do not have extra cooling when bought in convertible form. Unless that changed after 2020.

[FH212]

I will offer this, it honestly comes down to body style. If you like the LT1 body then get it. If not for the $3k more get the 1SS. The 2SS should not even be in your consideration if the LT1 is, unless this is about the looks? Oh and IMO the Visibility thing is not as big of an issue as its made out to be if you know how to adjust your mirrors properly.

[JKSully]

Originally Posted by supercab78

dyingbreed ; I feel you should be informed that the convertibles 1ss and 2ss do not have extra cooling when bought in convertible form. Unless that changed after 2020.

I made an assumption and this made me check - I stand partially corrected on my comments about additional cooling.

Looking at the 2022 configurator:
- "Auxiliary engine coolant cooler" and "Rear differential cooler" are standard on the 2SS coupe but not available on the 2SS or LT1 convertible
- "External engine oil cooler" and "Extra capacity cooling system" are standard on the 2SS coupe and convertible, and not available on the LT1 convertible
- "Transmission oil cooler" is standard on the 2SS coupe and optional on the 2SS convertible, and not available at all on the LT1 convertible

[Xaxas]

LT1 for $49k? You are out of your mind, that's 2SS money, at least where I'm at, heck my 2SS 1LE was $50k not counting the other option ($54k total) and I got a $10k discount on it

Come shop in SoFlo/Miami and you can get an LT1 for $34k

[Red Chief]

I like the styling of the LT1 over the SS and I bought it for the V8 under the hood, not for the latest high tech options that I don't even remotely need.

On this board you're going to get opinions from SS guys who feel a little insecure about the price they paid for track parts that they'll never use.

The LT1 is what the SS should have been from day one. It has great handling and V8 power that everybody wants. The track stuff should have been reserved for special trims with marketable names like z/28 or ZL1.