[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by Checkmate1

The single biggest issue for the C8 Z06 will be weight.

If the claimed 'dry' weight of 3450lbs of a Z07 w/full carbon doodads - is true, then adding another 150lbs of fuel would easily put it around 3600lbs give or take.

So a regular Z06 will probably be kissing around 3800lbs.

For a 2 seat sports car - anything over 3600lbs will be porky. Yes, they can make the car feel fast with shorter gearing but it remains to be seen how this car performs on track.

Even though my stock ZL1/1LE w/6mt weighs around 3860lbs, it has usable back seats for my kids as well. The LT4 thankfully has more torque as well which is still quite stout.

The C8 Z06 is about 40lbs heavier than the C8 Stingray Z51. There's nothing porky about the C8. Sure it weighs slightly more than previous generations but it doesn't feel heavy at all. This car will be a rocket that will embarrass a stock ZL1.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by SteveV

I like it, but would never buy one.

Why? Well, like my ZL1, this car would be a toy. My toy. And I like to row my own gears in a toy. So, as long as there it no manual option, I am keeping my ZL1.

Valid point.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by Checkmate1

The single biggest issue for the C8 Z06 will be weight.

If the claimed 'dry' weight of 3450lbs of a Z07 w/full carbon doodads - is true, then adding another 150lbs of fuel would easily put it around 3600lbs give or take.

So a regular Z06 will probably be kissing around 3800lbs.

For a 2 seat sports car - anything over 3600lbs will be porky. Yes, they can make the car feel fast with shorter gearing but it remains to be seen how this car performs on track.

Even though my stock ZL1/1LE w/6mt weighs around 3860lbs, it has usable back seats for my kids as well. The LT4 thankfully has more torque as well which is still quite stout.

And it'll still eat up and crap out anything under $150K without breaking a sweat.

People need to get over the whole weight thing. Cars today with all the features and options they have are not gonna weigh 3200 pounds. No weigh (pun intended) no how. They have to make these cars somewhat comfortable for a decent range folks with a wider range of height and weight. They have to give it enough reasonable storage. And the suspension has to be tough. As well as the fact that the people who ca afford these cars still want heated seats, a radio with a huge display, and all sorts of other options. At best you're gonna see 3800 pounds and a cabin as tight as a Vette. Under normal circumstances you'll see 4000 pounds and a tight figure like the ZL1...and people will complain that they can't see out of it. On the other end of the spectrum will be 4400 pound porkers like the Hellcat and GT500 and people will complain that they're too heavy. But then remove the options and make it light like they did with the 5th Gen Z28 and it ain't gonna sell. So it is what it is. Cars are going to be a decent size and weight.

[Alponcho]

Very impressed, especially given the price point. I need to free up some time to figure out how to get one ordered, or at least get on a legitimate list. I haven't had good luck with dealers locally...was explicitly told by one that in order for me to be taken care of (put on a real list for the Z06) I would need to buy a C8 he had available at like a 50% markup. Had to laugh at that one.

[KingLT1]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

The C8 Z06 is about 40lbs heavier than the C8 Stingray Z51. There's nothing porky about the C8. Sure it weighs slightly more than previous generations but it doesn't feel heavy at all. This car will be a rocket that will embarrass a stock ZL1.

More then slightly...C6Z's were around 3100lbs. The Z07 package was under 3100. Hence why a H/C C6Z making around 600whp NA is still a force to reckon with. The C7Z M7 jumped up 400lb and even more with the A8.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by KingLT1

More then slightly...C6Z's were around 3100lbs. The Z07 package was under 3100. Hence why a H/C C6Z making around 600whp NA is still a force to reckon with. The C7Z M7 jumped up 400lb and even more with the A8.

The weight has been jumping around, the C6Z and C5Z were considerably lighter if I recall. The C7Z jumped up a good bit and the C8Z is slightly heavier still but still lighter than a ZL1.

[ZX-10R]

Originally Posted by Alponcho

I need to free up some time to figure out how to get one ordered, or at least get on a legitimate list.

You and thousands of other people. Allocations will be probably be snapped up in 2 minutes after order date drop

[Z Boss]

I have driven a C8 vert (about 400 miles) as I found one for a buddy and brought it to him after a pit stop in my shop for a couple of days. In general, I'm a Camaro guy but own a Hellcat Challenger, SRT8 Charger and a SL550R AMG. I ride in and drive all kinds of cars and I was so impressed with that C8 Corvette that I'm getting in line for a Z06! That C8 drove and handled nothing like any Corvette I've ever been in. My '22 ZLE with a M6 is still backordered so I plan to get on the Z06 list and wait a couple of years if necessary. Hope it all works out. Bowtie Pastya!

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by Z Boss

I have driven a C8 vert (about 400 miles) as I found one for a buddy and brought it to him after a pit stop in my shop for a couple of days. In general, I'm a Camaro guy but own a Hellcat Challenger, SRT8 Charger and a SL550R AMG. I ride in and drive all kinds of cars and I was so impressed with that C8 Corvette that I'm getting in line for a Z06! That C8 drove and handled nothing like any Corvette I've ever been in. My '22 ZLE with a M6 is still backordered so I plan to get on the Z06 list and wait a couple of years if necessary. Hope it all works out. Bowtie Pastya!

Yep, even the C8 Stingray Z51 is very impressive.

[Zone5]

Another reason cars are heavier is big government, and the insurance companies. Crash protection, airbags, anti-theft devices, GPS tracking, and all of the computers to regulate that stuff. Personally, I do like the airbags and crash protection stuff.

18 way, adjustable, heated and air conditioned, power seats are heavy. Shatter free window glass is heavy. Heavy duty suspensions are heavy.

Also, gigantic wheels and tires are heavy. My C5 ZO6 had 17" front wheels and 18" rear wheels. It had 2 piston caliper brakes in the front and single piston in the rear. In SCCA racing, we had to change pads and rotors every race weekend. Calipers may have lasted a season, but usually not.

Now, with 20" and 21" wheels, the brakes are huge, and very heavy, but will last much longer and are more consistent. Racing improves the breed, but at the expense of weight. The large-size carbon fiber brakes are nice and light, but very expensive. If you race, and there's not a minimum weight to worry about, then the carbon fiber wheels and brakes are the way to go. But the non-ZO7 Vette will not have the carbon wheels or brakes, unless those can be ordered as a stand-alone option. And so, it will be heavier.

Light weight is always better for performance. But I want a safe car. I want brakes that can take some lapping and not get soft. I want a comfortable seat. I want window glass that can take a chip or two. So, is 3800 pounds heavy? Maybe a little, but I'll take the weight if it's there for a good reason.

[v8]

I have to agree with you. With airbags, all the computers, the wiring, comfy seats that are heated and cooled, well it just all ads up.

[semif18]

Put the $2k down at Ciocca Corvette to get on the reservation list for the Z06. Will find out next week where I fall on the list. Expecting probably 2023/2024.......at which point my beloved ZLE will have to go......

[raptor5244]

Originally Posted by semif18

Put the $2k down at Ciocca Corvette to get on the reservation list for the Z06. Will find out next week where I fall on the list. Expecting probably 2023/2024.......at which point my beloved ZLE will have to go......

MSRP?

[Jofu]

Originally Posted by raptor5244

MSRP?

Ciocca has gone on record stating all their Z06 would be sold at MSRP

Great of them for sticking to MSRP even with the good amount of flipping going on!

Geoff