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My best result was 380 hp and 693 Nm, but on such spec detonation of fuel was too heavy and we decided to deforce a little bit. |
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09-19-2021, 07:38 PM | #16 |
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So the claim is 380 rwhp, and 511 ft lb? Is that correct??
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09-19-2021, 07:45 PM | #17 |
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09-20-2021, 09:46 PM | #18 |
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Stock frame Hybrid from Turbos R US.
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09-21-2021, 08:33 AM | #19 |
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Very curious how the math breaks down between these two dyno graphs if someone is capable of doing that accurately!!
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09-21-2021, 08:41 AM | #20 |
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The conversion is:
ft-lb =Nm * 0.73756 |
09-21-2021, 08:44 AM | #21 |
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Ultimately, I think the Russian dyno is juiced heavily in the torque department and somewhat in the HP department compared to dynos here in the States.
I means 236hp is a little high stock and 289 ft/lbs is a bit higher than stock. Now, did he already have a gutted cat at that point??? If so, the 236hp is "within range", but the torque still seems quite high. I will add that dynos can represent whatever anyone wants depending on how you set them up and calibrate them. So, in reality, doing comparisons of different dynos has always been somewhat worthless outside of looking at the general curve and determining how "believable" that representation really is. |
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09-21-2021, 11:54 AM | #23 |
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Yes, US dynos are at the wheels.
If Russian dynos are at the flywheel, how do they get "accurate" given driveline losses? Seems like a lot of supposition to try to come out even fairly accurate. That also makes the dyno read of the HP completely believable at 372hp. |
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09-27-2021, 10:44 AM | #25 |
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Just subtract -20% to what is showing.
Stock - 189HP/232TQ Mods - 298HP/395TQ Torque still unbelievably high. But this sound more like it to me.
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Given efficiencies of modern "optimizations" I didn't think a 20% figure applied anymore, even to AWD vehicles (even those are closer to 16-17% with nothing higher than 18% for most vehicles). |
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