GM NOT covering car under warranty - Page 2

avalonandl · 09-09-2021, 04:39 AM

This is why I paid for a Carfax on my used ZL1...

Gunkk · 09-09-2021, 06:58 AM

Well that sucks. Sorry for your loss, OP.

Best way to move forward is to ask the dealer what they'll do for you, since they sold you the car (probably not knowing that it was) tuned. Maybe they'll work with you. Whether they knew or not, they'll be more likely to work with you if you don't go full lawyer-hostile on them right away.

If they won't work with you, then get a second opinion on the repair from a reputable local Chevy shop. Yeah you'll probably have to pay both a few hundred for a diagnosis, but at least you'll have options.

Good luck.

WhiteMale · 09-09-2021, 07:00 AM

I think that we've seen this once or twice recently, buying a used car that they find out later had been tuned when something catastrophic happened to the new owner. Unsure how that eventually played out.
Used car buyers should be taking note and having that addressed during the buy.

WhiteMale · 09-09-2021, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by avalonandl

This is why I paid for a Carfax on my used ZL1...

How does that tell you it's been tuned..????

BanOne · 09-09-2021, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by PeppaNoPig

I did buy the car from a CA dealership, I don't want to name dealers just yet so I can give them a chance to fix their reputation.

I've read all the comments and I know this stuff happens all the time, but ya boi is just trying to pay off the car first before even modifying it LOL. I had no money/time to even do this because I've been working so hard to have money to pay the principal and set some aside for any normal wear and tear.

I assume the Chevy dealership pulled data from the ECU and if there are timestamps those should definitely show when the ECU was modified. I'll keep this forum updated about the progress.

As of now, I have put both dealerships in contact with each other. The dealership I bought from is requesting the diagnostics from Chevy- 9/8/2021

So I am assuming that the used dealership you bought it from is not a GM dealer. Which I think is going to be a sticking point for GM. Hopefully the used car dealership honors something and helps you out but at this point I think GM is out of the picture, they make it very clear that mods of the ECU are grounds to dismiss warranty.

willzilla · 09-09-2021, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteMale

How does that tell you it's been tuned..????

Maybe a TUNEFAX?? lol..

Evansa22 · 09-09-2021, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by PeppaNoPig

I did buy the car from a CA dealership, I don't want to name dealers just yet so I can give them a chance to fix their reputation.

I've read all the comments and I know this stuff happens all the time, but ya boi is just trying to pay off the car first before even modifying it LOL. I had no money/time to even do this because I've been working so hard to have money to pay the principal and set some aside for any normal wear and tear.

I assume the Chevy dealership pulled data from the ECU and if there are timestamps those should definitely show when the ECU was modified. I'll keep this forum updated about the progress.

As of now, I have put both dealerships in contact with each other. The dealership I bought from is requesting the diagnostics from Chevy- 9/8/2021

Should have clarified, responsibility should fall on the dealership that sold you the car.

Just had a buddy go thru this at work. He bought a wrx with a stage 2 kit. They tried to smog the car after he bought it and low and behold won't pass. According to California law its on the seller to make sure the car is smog legal. The dealership he bought it from had to add cats and some other stuff to get it to pass smog. Hopefully they can trace when the ecu was modified, which sounds like they're trying to do, and will take care of you when it's figured out.

avalonandl · 09-09-2021, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteMale

How does that tell you it's been tuned..????

It told me I have a full warranty!

serper3 · 09-09-2021, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Evansa22

This
Its on the selling party to provide a smog legal vehicle. Under new rules ecu tunes make the car "illegal" in the state, so I would hope you have some legal recourse with them

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Originally Posted by Wuiquen

Not too add more fuel here but yes even if you fix your car, when time comes to smog since you are in CA, you will fail due to the modified ECU. Did you buy the car from a CA dealer?

The CA smog test only cares that at the time of the smog, the car has no tune and all drive cycles, etc. are ready. If the car was modded, put back to stock and sold as the OP is claiming, he wont have any issues with smog.

the dealer will deny warranty if the car has ever been tuned, whether put back to stock or not.

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Originally Posted by avalonandl

It told me I have a full warranty!

Please tell me you are joking...

BBQdDude · 09-09-2021, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PeppaNoPig

As of now, I have put both dealerships in contact with each other. The dealership I bought from is requesting the diagnostics from Chevy- 9/8/2021

At this point do nothing until they tell you the outcome. Once, if, the selling dealership denies any coverage ask the current dealership for stamp on ECU modding stamp. Then I would approach the selling dealership one last time prior to contacting a lawyer. After that game on!

clg82 · 09-09-2021, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by serper3

The CA smog test only cares that at the time of the smog, the car has no tune and all drive cycles, etc. are ready. If the car was modded, put back to stock and sold as the OP is claiming, he wont have any issues with smog.

the dealer will deny warranty if the car has ever been tuned, whether put back to stock or not.

Please tell me you are joking...

Huh? The OP is stating that the ECU has been modified per the GM dealership. And if that is the case, and he purchased it from another California dealer (which he did) than they are on the hook to make sure that the California car is smog passable when sold. Just like when, in California, you need to smog your used car first for proof before selling it.

SJFGTO · 09-09-2021, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by clg82

Huh? The OP is stating that the ECU has been modified per the GM dealership. And if that is the case, and he purchased it from another California dealer (which he did) than they are on the hook to make sure that the California car is smog passable when sold. Just like when, in California, you need to smog your used car first for proof before selling it.

^Agreed^

ZED SLED · 09-09-2021, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by clg82

Huh? The OP is stating that the ECU has been modified per the GM dealership. And if that is the case, and he purchased it from another California dealer (which he did) than they are on the hook to make sure that the California car is smog passable when sold. Just like when, in California, you need to smog your used car first for proof before selling it.

Go back and re-read the post he was replying to. I think you may have missed something.

Wuiquen · 09-09-2021, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by avalonandl

This is why I paid for a Carfax on my used ZL1...

just like my Carfax told me that my car oil pump was replaced under warranty by GM??? because it did not mention that at all.

09-09-2021, 04:39 AM	#15
avalonandl Drives: 2019 ZL-1 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Troy, MI & Naples, FL Posts: 2,018	This is why I paid for a Carfax on my used ZL1... __________________ 2019 ZL-1 Acquired 4/23/21 at 6300 miles. Riverside Blue, A10, PDR. Traded in 2017 2SS with 6M and 32k miles. Continental Extreme Contact Sports. Now has 10,000 miles... 2012 Yukon XL Denali w/ 6.2 AWD

09-09-2021, 06:58 AM	#16
Gunkk Thank you Al Oppenheiser! Drives: Red Hot A10 ZL1 Convertible Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Sarasota, FL Posts: 5,181 View My Garage	Well that sucks. Sorry for your loss, OP. Best way to move forward is to ask the dealer what they'll do for you, since they sold you the car (probably not knowing that it was) tuned. Maybe they'll work with you. Whether they knew or not, they'll be more likely to work with you if you don't go full lawyer-hostile on them right away. If they won't work with you, then get a second opinion on the repair from a reputable local Chevy shop. Yeah you'll probably have to pay both a few hundred for a diagnosis, but at least you'll have options. Good luck.

09-09-2021, 07:00 AM	#17
WhiteMale Drives: 23 ZL1 A10 Rapid Blue Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: MO Posts: 2,257	I think that we've seen this once or twice recently, buying a used car that they find out later had been tuned when something catastrophic happened to the new owner. Unsure how that eventually played out. Used car buyers should be taking note and having that addressed during the buy.

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