2020 camaro lt1 vs camaro ss - Page 16

donniedarko · 05-02-2021, 01:28 AM

My ex bought a 2016 1SS on my rec. I just leased a 21 LT1. I drove her car mostly. Besides the staggered wheels my car is more well appointed. I optioned 3.0 infotainment RS trim & A10, nothing else.

It’s actually bettter spec’d as is and the price is 8.5k less then the SS

Then the A8 vs A10

As for top speeds and all that. I retired my pro racer mode years ago. I wanted a tidy street car. Thats has the HP it does, but fits 3 surfboards and the same lease cost of well spec’d Prius. Then my employee pricing.

The LT1 on price is uncomprable IMO.

CamaroSSStlfan · 05-02-2021, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by donniedarko

My ex bought a 2016 1SS on my rec. I just leased a 21 LT1. I drove her car mostly. Besides the staggered wheels my car is more well appointed. I optioned 3.0 infotainment RS trim & A10, nothing else.

It’s actually bettter spec’d as is and the price is 8.5k less then the SS

Then the A8 vs A10

As for top speeds and all that. I retired my pro racer mode years ago. I wanted a tidy street car. Thats has the HP it does, but fits 3 surfboards and the same lease cost of well spec’d Prius. Then my employee pricing.

The LT1 on price is uncomprable IMO.

I own a 2016 2SS. Minus the A10 upgrade in your LT1 do you think the LT1 is better versus a 2016 minus A10?

My 2016 2SS only had 16,000 miles on it and everything minus MAG ride and sun roof. I got it for $31,200 last sept when the prices were starting to go up. I picked that over a 2020 left over 1ss around $37,000

I mean, for the price if you can get a base model LT1 for a great buy then I think it's a go, but having the 2SS I really like the cooled seats and leather.

Martinjlm · 05-02-2021, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Modernmusclecar

Is that auctual control or foot braking?

That is how you set launch control. It’s in the manual.

Martinjlm · 05-02-2021, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Modernmusclecar

Why does it lose at the track? With a set of tires and an tune it shouldnt be losing to an SS with the same mods.

Coolers and brakes.

Wyzz Kydd · 05-02-2021, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Devstrike

I agree with everything you mentioned in your above post and this is mostly in terms of the twisties on the street comparing a LT1 with a base 1SS with no mag ride or 1LE packages since I had the opportunity a while back to drive that 1SS. Since you are not hard accelerating to high speeds like on a track and you are probably only really hitting 50-60 maybe 65 on the public twisties I think the only modification really needed would be putting SS rear wheels on the LT1 since I don't really think that extra cooling is required for said the twisties. Comparing my LT1 to that 1SS (non 1le or mag ride) my LT1 on the twisty road near me I noticed my traction control light coming on coming out of a few of the curves where the 1SS it was not noticed at all.

Let me know your thoughts on that and please correct me if I am wrong on that. Also I am not disputing your post but just adding that in my experiences at least on the twisties it seems a set of rear wheels is all that is needed.

I think I would go with better front and rear, but I do think you're right that rear are the most important. I also agree that the additional cooling isn't really needed on the street, unless maybe your street is located in Death Valley.

Wyzz Kydd · 05-02-2021, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Modernmusclecar

Why does it lose at the track? With a set of tires and an tune it shouldnt be losing to an SS with the same mods.

I think the whole point of the thread is comparing stock to stock. The LT1, with stock tires and no tune loses at the track because it's limited to 150 mph, it has inferior brakes, it's missing a cooler or so, and it's driving on inferior rubber, which doesn't handle as well, and will almost certainly overheat a lot sooner than the SS tires will.

The SS doesn't need those 'mods' as it comes that way stock.

If your point is that you can buy an LT1 and pay to have it modded to be the same as an SS, I agree, you can. Of course you won't have a warranty anymore at that point and the SS will.

Modernmusclecar · 05-02-2021, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Martinjlm

That is how you set launch control. It’s in the manual.

Ok thanks.

Modernmusclecar · 05-02-2021, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Wyzz Kydd

I think the whole point of the thread is comparing stock to stock. The LT1, with stock tires and no tune loses at the track because it's limited to 150 mph, it has inferior brakes, it's missing a cooler or so, and it's driving on inferior rubber, which doesn't handle as well, and will almost certainly overheat a lot sooner than the SS tires will.

The SS doesn't need those 'mods' as it comes that way stock.

If your point is that you can buy an LT1 and pay to have it modded to be the same as an SS, I agree, you can. Of course you won't have a warranty anymore at that point and the SS will.

No...my point is at the drag strip youre not hitting 150. Brembos on the front of the lt1 are pretty good. The car doesnt need a tune to run the same times as an SS. And street tires at the track dont do a thing for anybody. Sorry but runing bottons 12s completely stock and 11.8s on a drag pack has me thinking it will be just fine against an SS. Thats a 10 speed.The car isnt built for a road course so judging it to do so isnt accurate.

Modernmusclecar · 05-02-2021, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Martinjlm

Coolers and brakes.

1/4 mile wont affect the cooling or brakes .... street tires are not good on either car regardless. Set of 285 Niitos on the back solve all issues.

Scottyz · 05-02-2021, 09:46 AM

I think Martin is referring to a track like a road course.

Modernmusclecar · 05-02-2021, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Scottyz

I think Martin is referring to a track like a road course.

I hought so....anyway I have 2 buddies.one with a 2022 lt1 with 10 speed and one with 2021 ss1le 10 speed. They have been trashing talking each other for a while now. We are heading to the track in late May....drag strip. Im curious to see the outcome.

Scottyz · 05-02-2021, 10:18 AM

That’s always fun. Back in the 5.0L fox body days I had tons of friends who had them. It was interesting to see that some just weren’t fast at all while others were like factory rockets. Funny how cars that don’t differ a lot may be far faster than their brethren’s.

Modernmusclecar · 05-02-2021, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Scottyz

That’s always fun. Back in the 5.0L fox body days I had tons of friends who had them. It was interesting to see that some just weren’t fast at all while others were like factory rockets. Funny how cars that don’t differ a lot may be far faster than their brethren’s.

This is so true. The 2 6th gens plus a Hellcat a few fbo Mustangs will have my 5th gen putting in some work on track day haha.

Wyzz Kydd · 05-02-2021, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Modernmusclecar

No...my point is at the drag strip youre not hitting 150. Brembos on the front of the lt1 are pretty good. The car doesnt need a tune to run the same times as an SS. And street tires at the track dont do a thing for anybody. Sorry but runing bottons 12s completely stock and 11.8s on a drag pack has me thinking it will be just fine against an SS. Thats a 10 speed.The car isnt built for a road course so judging it to do so isnt accurate.

As I mentioned in a previous post, straight line acceleration (drag strip) there's not much difference, none in my opinion. It comes down to the driver. If that's your thing, I think the LT1 is a great car to start with.

On a track, ie oval, road race, etc. Races where you actually have to drive for more than 12 seconds at a time, and make turns, accelerate, decelerate, repeat, the LT1 will not be able to keep up with the SS. If that's your thing then the SS is a better choice.

Obviously just my opinion, your mileage may vary.

05-02-2021, 01:28 AM	#211
donniedarko Drives: 2021 LT1 A10 RS Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 108	My ex bought a 2016 1SS on my rec. I just leased a 21 LT1. I drove her car mostly. Besides the staggered wheels my car is more well appointed. I optioned 3.0 infotainment RS trim & A10, nothing else. It’s actually bettter spec’d as is and the price is 8.5k less then the SS Then the A8 vs A10 As for top speeds and all that. I retired my pro racer mode years ago. I wanted a tidy street car. Thats has the HP it does, but fits 3 surfboards and the same lease cost of well spec’d Prius. Then my employee pricing. The LT1 on price is uncomprable IMO.

05-02-2021, 09:46 AM	#220
Scottyz 2019 ZL1 1LE MY GOON Drives: 1980 Z28 Big Red. Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Stoney Creek Posts: 2,061	I think Martin is referring to a track like a road course.

05-02-2021, 10:18 AM	#222
Scottyz 2019 ZL1 1LE MY GOON Drives: 1980 Z28 Big Red. Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Stoney Creek Posts: 2,061	That’s always fun. Back in the 5.0L fox body days I had tons of friends who had them. It was interesting to see that some just weren’t fast at all while others were like factory rockets. Funny how cars that don’t differ a lot may be far faster than their brethren’s.

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