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Old 02-10-2021, 02:34 PM   #57
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Well, how about that?!?!
I was surprised to see that in there (that matches the 2017 manual). The 2019 manual states 1st or reverse as stated above.

Also need to make sure you "firmly apply the parking brake."
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Old 02-10-2021, 03:20 PM   #58
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Its all about the gear ratio's. When you park you should put the car into a low gear. This is to create a large ratio between your wheels and engine to prevent your car from turning the engine.

In the case of the M6 in a 2016+ SS, Reverse and 1st will be your lowest two gears.

Reverse: 2.9
1st Gear 2.66
2nd 1.78
3rd 1.3
4th 1.0
5th 0.74
6th 0.5

Generally speaking, If your clutch is bad your car can roll, steep enough hill? car might still roll. So thats why you should use parking brake ontop of putting it in gear.
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Old 02-10-2021, 03:37 PM   #59
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I just strap it to the bicycle parking with a cable lock
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Old 02-10-2021, 03:42 PM   #60
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I just strap it to the bicycle parking with a cable lock
Nah, massive overkill. Just use this red one in the front and black in the rear. 100% secure, it even has insurance approved combo locks (2!!!)
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Old 02-10-2021, 04:56 PM   #61
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I would park it in 1st gear if I were you! I have never heard anything like what the dealer told you. Your wife could get adjusted to it being started in gear. Before she starts it, she could put it in neutral and then start the car. I have done that before especially letting it idle to warmup the engine. No biggee you know!
The dealer thing was from I think the OP. Somewhere up there a guys dealer said putting it in reverse turned of some parasitic electric drain.
My wife will get used to what ever. Shes a better driver than most guys I see.
For me, after the first 30 years of my working life mostly being spent driving big trucks... Im going to need to learn to leave a manual in gear. When I started trucking the diesels were all mechanical governors. It was feasible that if you left it in gear and it started to roll... that the engine would fire right up and run something over.
Sp I was trained to leave them in neutral.
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Old 02-10-2021, 05:45 PM   #62
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For the past 40 years been leaving my manual transmission cars in 1st gear when getting out. Not about to change. I don't buy the turning off more electronics, that I believe is a load of rubbish.
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Old 02-10-2021, 06:23 PM   #63
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Its all about the gear ratio's. When you park you should put the car into a low gear. This is to create a large ratio between your wheels and engine to prevent your car from turning the engine.

In the case of the M6 in a 2016+ SS, Reverse and 1st will be your lowest two gears.

Reverse: 2.9
1st Gear 2.66
2nd 1.78
3rd 1.3
4th 1.0
5th 0.74
6th 0.5

Generally speaking, If your clutch is bad your car can roll, steep enough hill? car might still ro ll. So thats why you should use parking brake ontop of putting it in gear.
That's the part I couldn't understand. I didn't think it mattered which gear because your car rolling could cause the engine to rotate either direction. I didn't realize there was a slight difference in gear ratios between 1st and R. Thanks!
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Old 02-10-2021, 08:20 PM   #64
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"Parking
If the vehicle has a manual
transmission, before getting out of
the vehicle, move the shift lever into
R (Reverse), and firmly apply the
parking brake. Once the shift lever
has been placed into R (Reverse)
with the clutch pedal pressed in,
turn the ignition to OFF, and release
the clutch."

So how do you "firmly apply" an electric parking brake?

(not a real question, just thought it was funny)
That was just copied and pasted from a 57' Chevy manual so GM could save money on the new Camaro manual. Obviously this firmly apply does not apply to a E-brake.
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Old 02-10-2021, 08:25 PM   #65
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your'e not going to "loose" any gear if the parking brake was not sufficient to hold the vehicle. the force of the wheels turning the transmission/engine are completely normal and not different then when you are driving the vehicle.
Leaving a manual transmission in 1st (or reverse) is as normal as leaving your automatic transmission in Park.... you wouldn't leave that in neutral would you? it is a backup to the parking brake.
When I was a kid my father had a 55' Rocket 88 Olds. It had no parking gear. It was R N 1 2 D or something like that. You would just leave it in gear and apply the parking brake. When starting, shift to N, release brake and put in D.
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Old 02-10-2021, 08:28 PM   #66
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This "parking brake for redundancy" is the idea I don't agree with. The parking brake is your primary method for parking the vehicle. Having it in gear is the redundant measure.
Should be the other way around. In Gear is stronger than your brake.
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Old 02-10-2021, 08:34 PM   #67
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After struggling with dead batteries and trickle chargers for several years, my dealer finally told me to put the car in Reverse when parking. He said the car draws current in first but not in reverse -- and he had the numbers to back that up. I couldn't believe it so I checked the Owner's Manual. Sure enough, you're told to put it in reverse (no explanation however). I get the 2016 back later this week. We'll see what happens.
The manual says reverse because its the lowest possible gear. Manual also says apply parking brake firmly. We have Electronic brakes. How can we apply firmly. That sentence like I said earlier was probably a basic line copied and pasted from a 57 chevy manual.
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Old 02-10-2021, 08:41 PM   #68
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I am interested in the concept of the dealer stating putting it in reverse helps keep the battery from draining. I dont see how. But I am concerned as my vert is sitting in the level driveway in neutral with a cover on it for a few weeks already. I would leave it in gear but my wife is not accustomed to that yet. The drive is level and we park just behind an unlevel expansion joint. The car would never roll towards the street. But if left in reverse and she gets in and starts it up and releases the clutch the distance to the brick wall is less than 3 feet. So... it might take time to get to leaving it there in reverse.
But shes a great driver so in time. only have 500 miles on the car.
Tell her to put it in the proper gear before driving.
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Old 02-11-2021, 06:41 AM   #69
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Just make sure you've got the handbrake firmly set.
Yeah... handbrake... I wish the 6th Gen still had a "hand" brake like the 5th Gen did. I have had my ZL1 for just about 3 years and the e-brake is annoying AF.

I miss a real handbrake...
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Old 02-11-2021, 08:57 AM   #70
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Never trust the E-brake as a primary.
This ^^^


I leave my cars parked in either 1st or Reverse, whichever direction would result in the lesser damage if the car was to unexpectedly start up with the clutch less than fully depressed but still far enough to permit the starter to turn. Mostly like, away from the house.

Learned that back in the days before clutch position switches were a thing. Useful knowledge in cases where the CPP switch has either taken a dump or could not be adjusted enough to permit starting at all.


I've never heard where parking with the transmission in reverse would draw less current.


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