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Old 01-19-2021, 06:47 AM   #1
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2022 Nissan 400Z

Here are patent renderings and an article with a few details. These renderings are taken from the article.

https://www.thedetroitbureau.com/202...-nissan-z-car/
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Old 01-20-2021, 06:34 PM   #2
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At a quick glance it looks almost exactly like the prototype Nissan showed last year, which I liked but after a deeper look was disappointed with it.

My thoughts: I like the looks and potential for a 400 hp twin turbo V6 in this car. However, it's disappointing because it has all the same hard points as the current 370Z - inside and out. It's essentially just a reskin/restyle inside and out, and a powertrain upgrade.
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Old 01-20-2021, 09:30 PM   #3
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At 400 HP and if it is under 3600 pounds with full options and competitive features to the SS, then I think it will be a good purchase in the $40K range.
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Old 01-21-2021, 07:15 AM   #4
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At a quick glance it looks almost exactly like the prototype Nissan showed last year, which I liked but after a deeper look was disappointed with it.

My thoughts: I like the looks and potential for a 400 hp twin turbo V6 in this car. However, it's disappointing because it has all the same hard points as the current 370Z - inside and out. It's essentially just a reskin/restyle inside and out, and a powertrain upgrade.

This is my problem with it. If you look at the roof line, it's clearly a 370 with new fascia on it. They'll update the drivetrain and suspension, but at it's core, it's still a 370. Which if I'm thinking correctly, is mostly a 350z.
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This is my problem with it. If you look at the roof line, it's clearly a 370 with new fascia on it. They'll update the drivetrain and suspension, but at it's core, it's still a 370. Which if I'm thinking correctly, is mostly a 350z.
I agree 100%. I had a 370Z and thought the same thing when I saw it. I like the updated tech on the inside and such but was very disappointed with the looks. They definitely could've done better!
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As others stated it looks like a 370Z with new fascia’s. Also think they should have kept with the numbering from 350, 370, to the next being 390 IF the next Z is going to basically be a 370Z with new fascias and body lines. Only a complete redesign should end up being the 400Z.
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I believe 350z and 370z were reference to the engine size, 3.5 and 3.7. 300zx was a 3.0tt too
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I believe 350z and 370z were reference to the engine size, 3.5 and 3.7. 300zx was a 3.0tt too
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Regarding body style moving from 240 to 280, 280 to 300, and so on, Nissan has always payed homage the the previous and distant past Z cars in some way. They’re proud of this.

I’ve always been a fan of the Z cars (own a 370z now), and have liked the previous versions. Way too early to tell on the 400z offering, I hope Nissan finds its way out of its recent financial troubles and actually finds a way to release the car.
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The 90s 300zx twin turbo was good enough of a car (Direct Corvette competitor) to where I think Nissan should continue naming the new car based on the engine size and call the new one 300ZX twin turbo. I don't like the idea of breaking tradition and naming it based on the hp. Marketers think the higher number the better and that if the number in the name is smaller than the last gen, then people will think it's a weaker car. But most people buying these cars would understand 300ZX twin turbo.
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The bigger concern I have seen about the car is that some people think it may just be a reskinned Q60S, which isn't exactly the most sporty chassis.

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The 90s 300zx twin turbo was good enough of a car (Direct Corvette competitor) to where I think Nissan should continue naming the new car based on the engine size and call the new one 300ZX twin turbo. I don't like the idea of breaking tradition and naming it based on the hp. Marketers think the higher number the better and that if the number in the name is smaller than the last gen, then people will think it's a weaker car. But most people buying these cars would understand 300ZX twin turbo.
Not everyone buying the car will know or care about the heritage. Bigger is better marketing-wise.

Besides, it's better for it to be called something different than having the Chevy problem of "which LT-1 are you talking about? The one from the 70s? The Gen II small block? Or the Gen V small block?" And let's not get started on some of the movie franchises, like Rambo...
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I believe 350z and 370z were reference to the engine size, 3.5 and 3.7. 300zx was a 3.0tt too
Correct, and they are/were amazing motors at that. I had both a 350z and later a 370z. I believe the new 400Z is referencing the horsepower.
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The bigger concern I have seen about the car is that some people think it may just be a reskinned Q60S, which isn't exactly the most sporty chassis.



Not everyone buying the car will know or care about the heritage. Bigger is better marketing-wise.

Besides, it's better for it to be called something different than having the Chevy problem of "which LT-1 are you talking about? The one from the 70s? The Gen II small block? Or the Gen V small block?" And let's not get started on some of the movie franchises, like Rambo...

I previously owned a 350z, a 370z and later a Q60S. I can assure anyone that the Z is not a reskinned Q60. The Q60 was sporty but it is not racecar sporty like the Z cars. To this day, I have yet to find/drive a car that I love as much as the Z.. in terms of handling and being connected as one. I will not discount my SS, because it does come close. Like anything else, the Camaro is better in ways and worse in others. However, I obviously cannot speak on the 400z (which you are referring to). I would be surprised if the 400z doesn't follow suit, in regards to the "sportiness". I've been waiting for the new Z to be released and it will likely be on my radar when it does.

The heritage argument I'm not sure that I can stand behind. The Z is one of those cars that may have a small following/market, but it typically consists of very loyal and passionate fans.
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I previously owned a 350z, a 370z and later a Q60S. I can assure anyone that the Z is not a reskinned Q60. The Q60 was sporty but it is not racecar sporty like the Z cars. To this day, I have yet to find/drive a car that I love as much as the Z.. in terms of handling and being connected as one. I will not discount my SS, because it does come close. Like anything else, the Camaro is better in ways and worse in others. However, I obviously cannot speak on the 400z (which you are referring to). I would be surprised if the 400z doesn't follow suit, in regards to the "sportiness". I've been waiting for the new Z to be released and it will likely be on my radar when it does.



The heritage argument I'm not sure that I can stand behind. The Z is one of those cars that may have a small following/market, but it typically consists of very loyal and passionate fans.
Normally I wouldn't doubt you but IMO Nissan isn't doing that strong financially nowadays so that's why I can see the reskinned Q60 happening. The whole Renault partnership seems to be causing quite a bit of issues. We all know what happened to Ghosn.
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