[Z OH 6]

I hope they've now accomplished whatever goals they were trying to achieve. I'd like to see that car with a Magnuson 2650R now. I'd bet it would go low 8's right away and could be knocking on the door to 7's eventually.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by sr71bb

Well it looks like they made it even FASTER!!!

with a 1.32 60 ft., be nice to know the rear tire specs

[gtfoxy]

Originally Posted by MartinLe

I'm with gtfoxy. An interesting subject. I just checked out some of the rules that sr71bb linked us to. I found the following very interesting:

2017-2018 Camaro COPO 350
590 HP Supercharged 2.9L Whipple

2019 Camaro COPO 350
630 HP Supercharged 2.65L Magnuson
Upper supercharger pulley size: (3.580) inches

2020 Camaro COPO 350
630 HP Supercharged 2.65L Magnuson
Upper supercharger pulley size (3.580)

Obviously, "factory stock" couldn't be more of a misnomer. I guess these COPO cars are nothing like our ZL1's.

It's crazy that these cars can run such low times with modest horsepower numbers.

It’s so archaic.

[KingLT1]

The same car broke into the 8's @ 150 last week.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by KingLT1

The same car broke into the 8's @ 150 last week.

Correct, the video was posted just a few posts before this.

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showp...8&postcount=14

[JSH]

I'm going to contact them about doing whatever non-engine work they might do to my car. I assume that track was well prepared but they nevertheless managed to pull the front wheels when my car can only dream of doing that. Don't know what role the Carlye Racing 15 inch conversion might play in lower ETs.

[sr71bb]

Originally Posted by JSH

I'm going to contact them about doing whatever non-engine work they might do to my car. I assume that track was well prepared but they nevertheless managed to pull the front wheels when my car can only dream of doing that. Don't know what role the Carlye Racing 15 inch conversion might play in lower ETs.

Well it certainly helps. I have seen them go as quick as 1.17 to 1.18 60 foots with the Carlyle set up. They usually dial that back a little bit to the 1.21 to 1.24 range because stuff has a tendency to break anytime u go in the teens on the 60 foot. What to me is most impressive however is the consistency. They can make 7 or 8 runs snd have all those runs within .1 or .2 of each other.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by EDFHOBBIES

Would that be the 17k stage 4 kit? Not counting all the suspension parts, tranny upgrades, and drag pack setup stuff... lol or cooling mods.. probaby 30k of mods and labor for that record.

Expensive bragging rights.. right there! great job though!

https://advancedmodernperformance.co...en-camaro-zl1/

I personally have no desire to retain the stock blower once I start doing extensive mods. By "extensive" I mean anything more than catback and intake. To me it just isn't worth the headache and expense to try to work this blower.

Originally Posted by sr71bb

Well if you are concerned about staying on a budget, then any quest for a world record probably should not be on your goal list (LOL). As far as bragging rights go, it aint really bragging if you can do it and do it repeatedly time and time again.

I think he was just pointing out how some of these things can seem a bit silly. Like, everything is altered, the car is gutted, tens of thousands of dollars on mods, blower maxed out to the end of it's life...but it's the stock blower. And then someone else will claim, fastest ZL1 on stock pistons. And someone else will claim fastest ZL1 on stock crank. Fastest Zl1 with stock door handles, lol!! Just joking and exaggerating a bit. I'm not taking anything away from this accomplishment. But these days it kinda seems like everyone is trying to grab whatever might get them some attention.

[KingLT1]

Exactly...the micro record stuff is getting out of hand. On a street car for street use I would much rather have a 2650 and that is coming from somebody that has data logged and tuned 3 different superchargers(ported LT4, 2300, 2650r) on the same C7Z. It's worth it for the cooling capacity and more linear power curve alone. The LT4 when over driven just smacks the tires with way too much torque. The 2650 hits a bit softer and pulls much stronger up top. Don't get me wrong the little 1.74 is a good unit for those that are staying around stock boost levels but it's not worth putting any money into.

[sr71bb]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

I personally have no desire to retain the stock blower once I start doing extensive mods. By "extensive" I mean anything more than catback and intake. To me it just isn't worth the headache and expense to try to work this blower.


I think he was just pointing out how some of these things can seem a bit silly. Like, everything is altered, the car is gutted, tens of thousands of dollars on mods, blower maxed out to the end of it's life...but it's the stock blower. And then someone else will claim, fastest ZL1 on stock pistons. And someone else will claim fastest ZL1 on stock crank. Fastest Zl1 with stock door handles, lol!! Just joking and exaggerating a bit. I'm not taking anything away from this accomplishment. But these days it kinda seems like everyone is trying to grab whatever might get them some attention.

I guess I must have missed something. The car is full weight at 3900 pounds so that hardly is gutted. Plus the car is used as a daily driver. I can guarantee you there is no need for AMP to get some attention as you suggest. They let their cars and their customers do the talking. There is a huge tendency on the internet to simply criticize or try to minimize someone elses achievements especially if you have no way of duplicating the results. It is NOT bragging if you can back it up especially is you consistently produce results that NO ONE else has achieved. PLUS it is simplistic to make a statement that YEAH it is the fastest but look how much money that costs YOU CAN NOT be the fastest and be worried about a budget. It has NEVER worked that way and never will. You have to PAY to PLAY.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by sr71bb

You have to PAY to PLAY.

I agree 100% and am willing to pay them to make mine faster using current power.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by sr71bb

I guess I must have missed something. The car is full weight at 3900 pounds so that hardly is gutted. Plus the car is used as a daily driver. I can guarantee you there is no need for AMP to get some attention as you suggest. They let their cars and their customers do the talking. There is a huge tendency on the internet to simply criticize or try to minimize someone elses achievements especially if you have no way of duplicating the results. It is NOT bragging if you can back it up especially is you consistently produce results that NO ONE else has achieved. PLUS it is simplistic to make a statement that YEAH it is the fastest but look how much money that costs YOU CAN NOT be the fastest and be worried about a budget. It has NEVER worked that way and never will. You have to PAY to PLAY.

We all have our opinions. So loosen up a bit. Nobody is trying to diminish anyone else's accomplishments. It's just that some of these "accomplishments" aren't really worth much. Stock blower. Stock tire. Stock bottom end. Stock trans. Stock torque converter. Stock weight. Stock suspension. Stock this and that. There are a zillion categories out there now with some claim of being the first stock something to do something or the fastest stock something. And it is because the market is very saturated. Again, it isn't to take anything away from someone. But with soo many claims out there it's just a bit much. I personally don't mind if someone wants to find a category that is currently uninhabited and claim it. But I do notice that maybe it isn't much of a claim these days. And for the record, I was just explaining to you what EDF meant because it seemed that you took it the wrong way.

Originally Posted by sr71bb

You have to PAY to PLAY.

Agreed. I have no problem shelling out good money for my toys. I am currently modding 4 of my 6 vehicles...2 of which are motorcycles. My ZL1 is getting a cam, ported heads, blower swap, etc. My Hellcat is going in for round 2 of mods over what it has now. My Busa right now is getting bolt-ons but I'm springing for a turbo kit. My H2-SX is getting full mods plus a $3K intercooler setup. trust me, I know how much it costs to "play". And I play as hard as I can. But at no point did I suggest that you don't have to pay. I simply said the stock blower is not worth dumping money into for most street driven cars due to the inefficiency of it. You will come across cooling issues. Even if you don't, swapping out to a bigger blower will make for a more efficient power gain and delivery. I mean, I'm not knocking anyone for whatever route they choose to go with. But for my car which will see DD use in the NorthEast where we get temp extremes, it is better for me to spend the extra money and do everything at once and have peace of mind on 93 octane.