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Old 11-20-2020, 04:05 PM   #57
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Sorry your incorrect, and further, you're misconstruing my reply. You said why would you go to a dealership and over pay for a new car (over another dealership), and MSRP implies new car..... Therefore, you're examining two items that are exactly the same in every way from another dealership. When a CUSTOM shop mods a car, it's NOT THE SAME as every other mod shop. SOMETHING will be different, no matter how minuscule. That difference may lead to a reason to pay more, or less. So your comparison between overpaying for the exact same vehicle and what you feel is overpaying for a custom job is NOT even close to square. For example, maybe Hennessey's mechs all wear gloves, maybe mod shop B doesn't. THAT is a difference. Maybe it's not a difference to you. But I'm sure other's would say it is. Attention to detail has a large scope. I owned a mod shop, albeit not in autos. We did it differently then my competitors while manufacturing the same thing many times, and it did make a difference. And I can go on about that, but I won't. So you might not like his garage. And maybe you're correct about his valuation. But you cannot say Hennessey's mods are exactly the same as other CUSTOM shop's mods. "Generally the same" is not "exactly the same". And that sliver of difference can be called "menial" in your opinion, or enough in over 500 customer's opinion that visit his shop every year. That tiny difference is usually the difference in winning in Top Fuel.
Custom shops. There are a ton of variances that can be said in that department but there are also a lot of similarities. You can find 2 shops doing the exact same work with the exact same parts but would you pay 25K more than the other shop "just because they are (enter name)"? Most people would because they think its a reputable shop when they don't know the past and ONLY hear good things. While both shops will offer a 1 year warranty, why spend 25k more on the other shop if they do the same work?

I despise Hennessy and cannot understand why they are still in business when they have and still do shady business to customer cars. Nothing will change that. But people will be people and do what they want. It's only when the truth comes out then people start to defend them and why they went with them and spent more money than they should have.
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Old 11-21-2020, 03:15 AM   #58
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Custom shops. There are a ton of variances that can be said in that department but there are also a lot of similarities. You can find 2 shops doing the exact same work with the exact same parts but would you pay 25K more than the other shop "just because they are (enter name)"? Most people would because they think its a reputable shop when they don't know the past and ONLY hear good things. While both shops will offer a 1 year warranty, why spend 25k more on the other shop if they do the same work?

I despise Hennessy and cannot understand why they are still in business when they have and still do shady business to customer cars. Nothing will change that. But people will be people and do what they want. It's only when the truth comes out then people start to defend them and why they went with them and spent more money than they should have.
Ok, I got no problems with your opine. I just piped in a bit on your comparison Because I owned a custom shop. And if you have never owned one, people outside have no idea of what goes on behind the scenes to make things happen, to ensure a profitable good quality operation. Even the cleanliness of the shop floor Has some thing to do with the overall quality of the end product as well as the price. That would be considered a difference in shops BTW, especially if there happens to be paint involved. You are speaking in generalized terms. And you’re totally entitled to your opinion on his shop. Actually, it’s people like you that will make him get better and raise his standards even more. My shop was the leader, and I always kept it that way. And when I heard a complaint against one of my employees (happened like only twice in 17 years) or a customer had an opinion that another shop had Evened up or started to pass me, then we always tightened the screws on our R&D and worked harder to prove why we were the best. So if Hennessey is the best, it’s people like you that will ensure he stays the best. If he’s not the best, he’ll not be listening to a swell of disgruntled customers and he’ll start to lose business. So you’ve been vocal, and the more vocal you are, either he’ll raise his standards that much more or he’ll be overtaken. I seem to think he’s on the cutting edge already putting in huge R & D money into the C8, when it costs big money to do so. He’s not being a copy cat, which is cheap and easier. He’s acting like the leader. Correct me if I’m wrong but I saw his modified C-8 Vette FIRST in the track magazines. But we’ll see, will your opinion drive him or not? It would me. I love people like you; you’re the bulletin board material for my team.
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Old 11-21-2020, 08:12 AM   #59
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i cannot speak of their cost vs work done as i only know 1 person personally with an Exorcist. Based on my experience on checking with big name shops in the country for same mods in your list Parts/Labor will set you back 20-27k depending on some of the brands you choose(exhaust price can vary alot with American Racing and Kooks being the best IMO.) I believe Hennessey is ~30k more than that price.
I am curious because I am having CSP 900 HP package for about $13k. On pump gas should put me 740-780 RWHP much more on E85. (Not ready for E yet) I will post when I pick up the car.
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Old 11-21-2020, 09:04 AM   #60
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I am curious because I am having CSP 900 HP package for about $13k. On pump gas should put me 740-780 RWHP much more on E85. (Not ready for E yet) I will post when I pick up the car.
My price Includes a blower swap for a Magnuson 2650. My guess yours does not as 2650 is 6 to 7k alone.
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Old 11-21-2020, 09:29 AM   #61
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if Hennessey is the best, it’s people like you that will ensure he stays the best. He’s acting like the leader.
Just go to his website or FB page and look around. He's doing stuff no else is doing and doing more cars than anyone. Not to mention his pursuit of the world land speed record.

In terms of price, LMR's 850 pkg. is more expensive than HPE's (which I have). I spoke with LPE last week and not surprisingly their pricing is basically the same as HPE.

You have to consider ALL of the details of shops' SCOPE/pricing. For example, LMR doesn't pay to ship a customer's car while HPE has already paid $5k to ship mine twice.

I'm only interested in what HPE did for me today and tomorrow, not what he was rumored to have done 5-10 years ago.
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Old 11-22-2020, 07:32 AM   #62
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Hennessy is at the forefront. Having a test track on the property that alone is huge.
I have no dog in the hunt. But let’s face it the guy has a serious set up and a customer base world wide. Now I was told if you personally go to the shop and discuss your project they are very interested and flexible with pricing
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Old 11-22-2020, 08:39 AM   #63
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Hennessy is at the forefront.
Yes, and back to the subject of this thread, here's the Exorcist at 217 mph

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