[ZRacerLE]

Originally Posted by GuywithL86

Eh, my dad got his with no markup. He’s not anybody special.

While the are not on the same planet in performance to purchase price, they are on the same planet when it comes to performance to cost of ownership.

Gt4 and spyder have very little depreciation. Probably the slowest depreciating $100k new car that money can buy.

There are plenty of smart enthusiasts out there who could care less what the vehicle costs to purchase and care mostly about cost of ownership. You just need the money to be able to do that. But....Thats why they have the money to do that.

Everybody that buys thing based on monthly payment = moron
Everybody that buys things based on purchase price = average iq
Everybody that buys things based on purchase price + ownership cost - sale price = smart

Or you could call them poor, middle class, and rich instead of stupid and smart

There's no need for that last bit.

[Nothing like an SS]

Exactly.....sure sign of LACK of intelligence, general insults of large groups of people, that always wins friends......no actual facts just start hurling negative comments.

Amazing

[RobbyBeefcake87]

Originally Posted by Nothing like an SS

I give a rats behind what total cost of ownership is, I care about how much I ENJOY the ride! Not a matter of intelligence as some people seem to think, yet, those same people are here on a Camaro forum saying how dumb it is to own one as it is a higher cost of ownership.

My head hurts reading posts on here sometimes....go buy the Porsche and chat on their forum instead of spewing how smart you are and how dumb we are.....should cut back on the exhaust fumes you breathe, seems to affect your brain cells....

I don't get it. He posts about his opinion on how the gt4 is clearly the better twisty roads car vs the c6z as if it's fact and universally everyone's preference, after critizicing it's very long gearing no less.

Makes a blanket statement that if given the choice and money wasn't an issue noone here would buy a camaro, then proceeds to get proven wrong by people with the means to get more expensive cars but still choose camaros.

And on other threads states how the mustang is clearly the more fun car vs the camaro because it fish tails and spins out everywhere lol.

Guy doesn't even have a camaro, just comes on here to troll it seems.

[RobbyBeefcake87]

Originally Posted by GuywithL86

Eh, my dad got his with no markup. He’s not anybody special.

While the are not on the same planet in performance to purchase price, they are on the same planet when it comes to performance to cost of ownership.

Gt4 and spyder have very little depreciation. Probably the slowest depreciating $100k new car that money can buy.

There are plenty of smart enthusiasts out there who could care less what the vehicle costs to purchase and care mostly about cost of ownership. You just need the money to be able to do that. But....Thats why they have the money to do that.

Everybody that buys thing based on monthly payment = moron
Everybody that buys things based on purchase price = average iq
Everybody that buys things based on purchase price + ownership cost - sale price = smart

Or you could call them poor, middle class, and rich instead of stupid and smart

I'm glad you atleast changed your thought process a little and at least included purchase price as something to factor in the budget... considering a few pages back you claimed otherwise.

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by GuywithL86

Eh, my dad got his with no markup. He’s not anybody special.

While the are not on the same planet in performance to purchase price, they are on the same planet when it comes to performance to cost of ownership.

Gt4 and spyder have very little depreciation. Probably the slowest depreciating $100k new car that money can buy.

There are plenty of smart enthusiasts out there who could care less what the vehicle costs to purchase and care mostly about cost of ownership. You just need the money to be able to do that. But....Thats why they have the money to do that.

Everybody that buys thing based on monthly payment = moron
Everybody that buys things based on purchase price = average iq
Everybody that buys things based on purchase price + ownership cost - sale price = smart

Or you could call them poor, middle class, and rich instead of stupid and smart

People that say 'could care less' instead of 'could NOT care less' = below avg iq

See, we can all pass judgement but sadly that alone does not make us right or even smart.

[ZRacerLE]

Originally Posted by ST1LE

People that say 'could care less' instead of 'could NOT care less' = below avg iq

See, we can all pass judgement but sadly that alone does not make us right or even smart.

If you could care less, then you probably care too much. Stop that.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by ZRacerLE

There's no need for that last bit.

^This, people that are really smart with their money don't tie up 100k plus into a car or pay high payments financing said car. They invest it etc.

Cars are rarely ever a good "investment" etc period. They are emotional/fun purchases. Any car nice or not rarely shows what a person's net worth represents.

I hate it when these discussion devolve to this. Non scientific, but nearly every time it seems to be a Porsche owner. The actions of Porsche owners on many different forums (BMW, Ford, Chev) and in person have been considerations when thinking about buying one. I know it shouldn't, but I'm human and it does. Also, I know every brand had their negative stereotypes, but the Porsche one to me seems to be one of the worst and the truest.

[ZRacerLE]

Originally Posted by minn19

^This, people that are really smart with their money don't tie up 100k plus into a car or pay high payments financing said car. They invest it etc.

Cars are rarely ever a good "investment" etc period. They are emotional/fun purchases. Any car nice or not rarely shows what a person's net worth represents.

I hate it when these discussion devolve to this. Non scientific, but nearly every time it seems to be a Porsche owner. The actions of Porsche owners on many different forums (BMW, Ford, Chev) and in person have been considerations when thinking about buying one. I know it shouldn't, but I'm human and it does. Also, I know every brand had their negative stereotypes, but the Porsche one to me seems to be one of the worst and the truest.

This has been my experience as well. That's why I love to meet a down to earth (new) Porsche owner. They are out there for sure and I bet they hate the stereotype. It's real though.

Pretty clear L86 guy looks down on camaro owners. I'm betting he's just young and will grow out of it.

[Staves]

Originally Posted by GuywithL86

Eh, my dad got his with no markup. He’s not anybody special.

Eh.....Ok. I'm now sure how you deduced from my post that I insinuated you can't get a Porsche without markup.

Originally Posted by GuywithL86

While the are not on the same planet in performance to purchase price, they are on the same planet when it comes to performance to cost of ownership.

Well a big part of the "cost of ownership" to me is the $100K+ to purchase one.
Luckily for me, I have a car that to me sounds better than any Porsche and does everything else extremely well that cost me $33K brand spanking new. A win for the middle class!

[ZRacerLE]

Originally Posted by Staves

Eh.....Ok. I'm now sure how you deduced from my post that I insinuated you can't get a Porsche without markup.



Well a big part of the "cost of ownership" to me is the $100K+ to purchase one.
Luckily for me, I have a car that to me sounds better than any Porsche and does everything else extremely well that cost me $33K brand spanking new. A win for the middle class!

I'd put you in the "genius class" not covered by our online friend.

[Staves]

Originally Posted by ZRacerLE

I'd put you in the "genius class" not covered by our online friend.

For what I got for the $, the "no-brainer" class.

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by minn19

^This, people that are really smart with their money don't tie up 100k plus into a car or pay high payments financing said car. They invest it etc.

Cars are rarely ever a good "investment" etc period. They are emotional/fun purchases. Any car nice or not rarely shows what a person's net worth represents.

I hate it when these discussion devolve to this. Non scientific, but nearly every time it seems to be a Porsche owner. The actions of Porsche owners on many different forums (BMW, Ford, Chev) and in person have been considerations when thinking about buying one. I know it shouldn't, but I'm human and it does. Also, I know every brand had their negative stereotypes, but the Porsche one to me seems to be one of the worst and the truest.

IDK, BMW M3 drivers have quite the stereotype too, lol.

[ZRacerLE]

Originally Posted by Staves

For what I got for the $, the "no-brainer" class.

I like your label better

[minn19]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

IDK, BMW M3 drivers have quite the stereotype too, lol.

At least we recovered so there is hope.