Front Crash bar delete

SONiC MOjO · 08-09-2020, 01:11 PM

Has anyone done this, and be worth it?
Weight saving, and a cleaner look thru grill.
From bumper is coming off, so I’ll be right there.

I didn’t know if it ruins the dexterity of the alignment
Of the front.

Junkyardspecial · 08-09-2020, 02:30 PM

Dexterity of the alignment?

I believe the plastic is part of the grille so you would have to cut it out of the grille to remove it.

RDBill · 08-09-2020, 03:06 PM

I often thought about doing it myself. What I was most concerned about is if I broke down how would they tow the car since the tow bar threads into the bumper support (I believe).

laynlo15 · 08-09-2020, 03:39 PM

Are you going to drag race it? No reason I can see unless thats your goal.

SONiC MOjO · 08-09-2020, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkyardspecial

Dexterity of the alignment?

I believe the plastic is part of the grille so you would have to cut it out of the grille to remove it.

Lol, I don’t even know where that came from.
I’m was trying to say Rigidity

SONiC MOjO · 08-09-2020, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laynlo15

Are you going to drag race it? No reason I can see unless thats your goal.

Mostly yes. . Along with some street driving.

SONiC MOjO · 08-09-2020, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RDBill

I often thought about doing it myself. What I was most concerned about is if I broke down how would they tow the car since the tow bar threads into the bumper support (I believe).

This looks like you Can keep the tow hook.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/189668.../shares/a03955

Trochoidal · 08-09-2020, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SONiC MOjO

Has anyone done this, and be worth it?
Weight saving, and a cleaner look thru grill.
From bumper is coming off, so I’ll be right there.

I didn’t know if it ruins the dexterity of the alignment
Of the front.

Here’s some removal here if you haven’t already watched this video.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5NCpMXF_3Tc

SONiC MOjO · 08-09-2020, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trochoidal

Here’s some removal here if you haven’t already watched this video.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5NCpMXF_3Tc

Thank you

RDBill · 08-09-2020, 06:30 PM

Sweet! Thanks.... I might have to put this on my to do list!

az4783054 · 08-09-2020, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SONiC MOjO

This looks like you Can keep the tow hook.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/189668.../shares/a03955

it looks like the bumper was sectioned in the middle but end sections remaining.

GunMetalGrey · 08-10-2020, 02:11 AM

How much weight savings are we talking about?

What kind of detrimental effect would it have on safety?

SONiC MOjO · 08-10-2020, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GunMetalGrey

How much weight savings are we talking about?

What kind of detrimental effect would it have on safety?

I’m guessing in the 10# range is all. .

It would definitely Have a huge effect on your front collision, wouldn’t take much to have a issue. But, I think even if it was there it would still have pretty big issue if you hit anything.

It might also help getting air to the HX maybe, all this is just assuming. .

DFW_Muscle · 08-10-2020, 11:12 AM

I used to work as an engineer at the company that makes these "bumpers" / "crash-bars" / "bumper beams" (lots of different names for the same part).

The bar is there to allow the car to meet front and offset front impact rating requirements. Either from another vehicle, and in some cases for taller vehicles, to push pedestrians over the top instead of being run over (mostly a European standard though). The beam is meant to absorb energy in this type of impact and is designed to deform and absorb as much of the load as possible before your frame takes a beating. Really, it is only meant for 5-12mph impact, more than that and it doesn't do a whole lot.

That all being said, I have removed one on a previous vehicle to help frontal cooling through an intercooler. But, I would hate to have an accident and then get an insurance claim denied because a structural component was removed. Like anything; mod at your own level of risk.

If it was a drag-race only application, I would delete it without hesitation (weight savings and better cooling).

08-09-2020, 01:11 PM	#1
SONiC MOjO Drives: 2018 Zl1 A10 Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Idaho Posts: 101	Front Crash bar delete Has anyone done this, and be worth it? Weight saving, and a cleaner look thru grill. From bumper is coming off, so I’ll be right there. I didn’t know if it ruins the dexterity of the alignment Of the front.

08-09-2020, 02:30 PM	#2
Junkyardspecial Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: May 2019 Location: South Florida Posts: 438	Dexterity of the alignment? I believe the plastic is part of the grille so you would have to cut it out of the grille to remove it. __________________ Subscribe to my Youtube channel! https://www.youtube.com/c/Junkyardspecial Will buy your GoodYear Supercar 3R Take offs!

08-09-2020, 03:06 PM	#3
RDBill 902HP 858TQ Drives: 2018 ZL1 A10 Join Date: May 2018 Location: New Jersey Posts: 135	I often thought about doing it myself. What I was most concerned about is if I broke down how would they tow the car since the tow bar threads into the bumper support (I believe). Attached Images

08-10-2020, 02:11 AM	#12
GunMetalGrey Drives: 2018 ZL1 (SOLD) 992 GT3 (current) Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Victoria B.C. Canada Posts: 1,404	How much weight savings are we talking about? What kind of detrimental effect would it have on safety? __________________ 2018 ZL1; Mag 2650 and 2 inch LT Headers , every SPL suspension upgrade, MCS 2 way coilovers, sway bars, square SC3R 325's all the way around, and multiple brake cooling upgrades

08-09-2020, 03:39 PM	#4
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,882	Are you going to drag race it? No reason I can see unless thats your goal.

08-09-2020, 06:30 PM	#10
RDBill 902HP 858TQ Drives: 2018 ZL1 A10 Join Date: May 2018 Location: New Jersey Posts: 135	Sweet! Thanks.... I might have to put this on my to do list!

08-10-2020, 11:12 AM	#14
DFW_Muscle Drives: 2018 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: DFW Posts: 199	I used to work as an engineer at the company that makes these "bumpers" / "crash-bars" / "bumper beams" (lots of different names for the same part). The bar is there to allow the car to meet front and offset front impact rating requirements. Either from another vehicle, and in some cases for taller vehicles, to push pedestrians over the top instead of being run over (mostly a European standard though). The beam is meant to absorb energy in this type of impact and is designed to deform and absorb as much of the load as possible before your frame takes a beating. Really, it is only meant for 5-12mph impact, more than that and it doesn't do a whole lot. That all being said, I have removed one on a previous vehicle to help frontal cooling through an intercooler. But, I would hate to have an accident and then get an insurance claim denied because a structural component was removed. Like anything; mod at your own level of risk. If it was a drag-race only application, I would delete it without hesitation (weight savings and better cooling).

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