[KingLT1]

Originally Posted by ZX-10R

So $73k total investment, and you don't think a ZL1 can get there for the same investment? Disagree. Plus there are plenty of ZL1s for $45k now

The main thing is I don't trust a stock LT1 at higher boost (> ~8 psi), you're probably living on borrowed time. The LT4 is designed for boost and can support up to 900-1000 hp, reliably

I have 42k invested total with the mods and the price of the car. Now you are stipulating to support your argument. You said 9 second pass cheaper. You didn't say there is a mileage requirement or life span the engine must meet in order to pass your qualifications.

Originally Posted by grampa_ss

Not what he meant. 42K total is just that....42K total.

Exactly

[Nucdancer01]

"For those 9 seconds or less..."

Can't believe nobody has posted this yet!

Great job OP!

-Jeremy

[Paintslinger16]

Originally Posted by caSStro18

I am curious though, as I am learning more, when they pair up cars to race against each other, do they pair them based on time? I mean, do they pair up cars that run in the 9’s with other cars that run in the 9’s? If that the case, a car that runs low 9’s going up against a car that runs high 9’s doesn’t seem like a fair race.

In bracket racing, you are grouped into a range of classes but you are able to race faster or slower cars by handicaps at the tree. You have to be consistent in you runs, but a car that runs 10.0 could race against a car that runs 13.0. The slower car gets a 3 second head start. Theoretically the race should End in a tie.
Getting the win, would or could come down to reaction time at the light. A slower car can win by just leaving a little quicker in thousands of second.
A lot more can happen in the 1320 feet, but that’s the simple version.
The car in question, owned by JLS, can only get faster and quicker. His goal was a 9 second street based NA car, which is quite the accomplishment in any car.

[ZX-10R]

Originally Posted by KingLT1

You didn't say there is a mileage requirement or life span the engine must meet in order to pass your qualifications.

Sure, but unless you build your own engines or live near a shop it's reasonable to expect a 75k+ mile service life while maintaining ~90-95% compression.

How many Audi RS3 guys are running 9s at 30+ psi? But what they don't tell you is how often the motor needs a "refresh"

Anyway, everyone has their priorities.

[KingLT1]

Originally Posted by ZX-10R

Sure, but unless you build your own engines or live near a shop it's reasonable to expect a 75k+ mile service life while maintaining ~90-95% compression.

How many Audi RS3 guys are running 9s at 30+ psi? But what they don't tell you is how often the motor needs a "refresh"

Besides the point. You posted "Build a 9 second ZL1 cheaper then a SS" comment and I posted some examples stating otherwise . You can keep stipulating all you want, but the point will remain. I already said the ZL1 is a better platform. Try reading a post thoroughly next time instead of skipping through parts...it's obvious since you actually thought that I posted claiming I had 73k into my car.

Aside from that, I already know for a fact that with the remaining 6-8k left before I am at the price of a low mileage used ZL1, I can do drop-in pistons/rods and drive shaft/axles. Does it mean my car is a ZL1, No but that wasn't the point.

And No the LT4 isn't exactly ready for 1000hp in stock form depending on the power adder if we are now using 75k miles and 90% compression or greater as requirement to qualify for your testing standards. Unfortunately the LT1/4 engines suffer from a shit half thrust bearing design. Belt driven superchargers tend to cause that bearing issues when pullied down(16psi or greater?) to a point where they put a lot of strain on the crank. So Above 800whp is a crap shoot with LT4 before it's a case of rolling the dice. Some LT4's have been 1000whp and some have trashed the thrust bearing at 800whp. The LT1 seems to be a crap shoot above 700whp with the tight ring gaps even though some have made it 30k miles north of 800whp. I know still not 75k miles...junk. That being said would have more faith pushing a stock LT4 over a LT1 for sure...no disagreement there.

Either way when you start making power nothing is guaranteed. Once you get 9's or quicker regardless of the platform parts break...aftermarket or stock. So really it's a moot point especially if you want to throw 75k mile longevity into the equation for either model because likely something will break on either car at that power level consistently hooking at the track for that kind of mileage.

All that being said, the car mentioned in the OP is impressive none the less. 9's is moving pretty good regardless of the mods it took to get there.

[ZX-10R]

Thanks - yes 9s is always impressive

Do you follow this guy (18 min in)?

[LT4Greg]

What does it matter whether an SS or ZL1! A run in the 9 second range is impressive for a modded Camaro!��

[396ssrat]

Originally Posted by BlackbeastSS2

Here’s a hidden cage on a 6Gen Camaro. Not your average install and looks pricey.

https://youtu.be/-YEXYQmFQKk

Good video, the downside is that the NHRA tech who does the cert usually needs to sonic check the tubing to ensure it is thick enough to pass spec. They may have to expose some of the cage ( remove panels etc) for sonic checking.
I like the concept of what they are doing.

[396ssrat]

Originally Posted by caSStro18

Well, since my job is teaching math, if I want to keep my Camaro I better not spend less time in math class. Lol. It does seem strange that 9.99 is considered the same as 9, I guess that’s how it defined in the 1/4 mile world. Mathematically incorrect, but, apparently that does not apply here. It’s like saying $9.99 is really just $9.00. Odd, but honestly I don’t really care because I don’t live in the 1/4 mile world.

So do you say nine dollars and ninety nine cents or do you say ten dollars minus one cent?

[396ssrat]

Originally Posted by caSStro18

Well calling it high, mid, low, makes sense. When I hear “it’s a 9 second car” I think closer to 9 seconds, not almost 10. But again, I don’t live in that world and those who do can call it whatever they want. Heck, call 19.99 seconds a 10 second run for all I care. I was just seeing it from a mathematical perspective. That’s just how my mind works.

I am curious though, as I am learning more, when they pair up cars to race against each other, do they pair them based on time? I mean, do they pair up cars that run in the 9’s with other cars that run in the 9’s? If that the case, a car that runs low 9’s going up against a car that runs high 9’s doesn’t seem like a fair race.

If you use "new math" it's "about 10 second's".

[396ssrat]

Originally Posted by caSStro18

Well calling it high, mid, low, makes sense. When I hear “it’s a 9 second car” I think closer to 9 seconds, not almost 10. But again, I don’t live in that world and those who do can call it whatever they want. Heck, call 19.99 seconds a 10 second run for all I care. I was just seeing it from a mathematical perspective. That’s just how my mind works.

I am curious though, as I am learning more, when they pair up cars to race against each other, do they pair them based on time? I mean, do they pair up cars that run in the 9’s with other cars that run in the 9’s? If that the case, a car that runs low 9’s going up against a car that runs high 9’s doesn’t seem like a fair race.

Drag racing isn't about being fair, it's about winning however the hell you can. The old days of honor are in the past.

[BigGuy81]

Bro use the edit button. Don't quad post.

[KingLT1]

Originally Posted by ZX-10R

Thanks - yes 9s is always impressive

Do you follow this guy (18 min in)?

Yea I follow it. I can see his reasons for converting a LT over to port injection so they can control it with a Holley Terminator system. I agree with him the block and LT4 crank is stronger then LS, but I am sure he upgraded the OEM thrust bearing which is really the only issue with LT bottom ends in certain applications. Also if he went Turbos it might not be a issue at all even with the stock bearing. Killer build none the less.

[gtfoxy]

Originally Posted by 396ssrat

If you use "new math" it's "about 10 second's".

Common Core.

LOL