[NeverDie]

This is about the response I expected based on the demonstrated lack of intelligence.

iDrive complaints lmao, sure gottem! Totes proved Bangle was run off in shame because of the huge failure!

I'll also add that this 7 series had the largest year of sales of any 7 series before or after it. That speaks more to the success of the product than any of your anecdotal and unproven theories.

https://carsalesbase.com/us-bmw-7-series/

Have a great evening!

[MackSteelPrivateEye]

Originally Posted by Baldilocks01SS

Looks better than the 2019 to current Camaro (save ZL1) front end to me... (shrug). Might not be subtle, but at least it doesn't look like an afterthought.

The 2019+ Non SS front end looks pretty bad. But still look better than the Beaver Motor Works new front end.

[MackSteelPrivateEye]

Originally Posted by Baldilocks01SS

It's not like they have't used large grille vents before.....

I shall call them both...Bucky.

[Camaro_QC]

Well, not so bad finally

[Baldilocks01SS]

I'll still take a serious look at the M4.

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by Baldilocks01SS

I'll still take a serious look at the M4.

Meh.......BMW's and even the Ms are pretty lame now. My sold '13 M3 will likely be my last M car. Just not what they used to be, so soft now that a much cheaper SS is faster, and maintenance cost of an M is insane!

Then, anyone in a Camaro will have to stare at that ugly grill in their rear view mirror all the time. Sounds like a bad idea HAHAHAHA

[L8Apex]

I was open to an M series or a 435 as my next car, but I just can't get past that grille

[UnknownJinX]

Originally Posted by ST1LE

Meh.......BMW's and even the Ms are pretty lame now. My sold '13 M3 will likely be my last M car. Just not what they used to be, so soft now that a much cheaper SS is faster, and maintenance cost of an M is insane!

Then, anyone in a Camaro will have to stare at that ugly grill in their rear view mirror all the time. Sounds like a bad idea HAHAHAHA

I really hope the new M4 would have performance going for it. Otherwise, the only other thing going for it is the badge...

[JT58]

I never really liked BMW to begin with. My Ex wife convinced me to get a 128I a 2011 demo car, we leased it. She said I needed a status car at my age. At the time I had a Mazdaspeed 3 as well. I much preferred the Mazda and drove it way more often. We end up divorcing a couple years later and I got stuck with the BMW. I end up trading it. The car was just "OK" but I never did love it. Too computer controlled by the dealer, no dip stick to check the oil, very expensive parts and service and not "service friendly" at home. Geez just a new battery is like $600-$800 that the dealer must install and reset the codes. I'll never own one again.

[Fraxum]

I carloved my 4 door M6 335I TT. It was an all around fun car to drive, useful and had really good steering. Since then the 3/4 series has lost its way IMO.

I do prefer my LT1 in every way, but I wish it had 4 doors.

[Baldilocks01SS]

Originally Posted by ST1LE

Meh.......BMW's and even the Ms are pretty lame now. My sold '13 M3 will likely be my last M car. Just not what they used to be, so soft now that a much cheaper SS is faster, and maintenance cost of an M is insane!

Then, anyone in a Camaro will have to stare at that ugly grill in their rear view mirror all the time. Sounds like a bad idea HAHAHAHA

You've never driven a current M2 Competition then. Great little car.

[Baldilocks01SS]

Originally Posted by UnknownJinX

I really hope the new M4 would have performance going for it. Otherwise, the only other thing going for it is the badge...

Besides the much better to live with interior than the Camaro will ever have....

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by Baldilocks01SS

You've never driven a current M2 Competition then. Great little car.

Okay, fair I take it back. The M2 is the exception.

[m3bs]

I drove a M2 CS and was unimpressed. Got back in my Golf R and felt like it was the better car.