[s346k]

eh i’ve had several econobox cars. i never choose <8 cyls for a fun car, though.

[wjones14]

Originally Posted by Jaybub

I'd love to hear how others made the transition over to the Camaro as well.

I've already built up my dream 2SS 1LE on the website. Unfortunately I won't be pulling the trigger for at least another year (kids/college/'nuff said). And while I think SHOCK looks pretty awesome, I'll be taming it down a bit and going with white.

Originally Posted by SliChillax

I came from a BMW M235i, great car but didnt satisfy my needs in terms of handling and feel. ZL1 blew me away in every direction.

I came from an M235i as well, and agree with SliChillax that it was a great car. But after 3 years with it I decided to switch to a 2SS 1LE, with these being my biggest gripes about the BMW:

1. The M235i just didn't look badass enough for me
2. The BMW didn't have an LSD
3. Even though it was minimal, the BMW inline 6 still had turbo lag

During my first test drive in an SS, I was so blown away by the sound and racecar-like feel that I barely noticed the poor visibility and cramped cabin. The car was so overwhelming that I didn't pay attention to the poor ergonomics or lack of storage space either.

Now after two years with the 1LE, my opinion is that the Camaro is full of compromises. For how I use it - as a weekend/nice weather/fun car - it's pretty much perfect. The performance is off the charts in its price range. It has an impressive list of standard features (how many cars in this segment have a Head-Up Display, heated/ventilated seats, and heated steering wheel?) And what sub-$50K car looks more menacing? I'm a casual, once-per-year HPDE track guy, and that is absolutely where this car shines.

If that's how you plan on using it, it's hard to beat.

But, eventually I want to downsize to a single car, and for me personally, the Camaro has too many compromises to live with on a daily basis. The M235i was more bland and less exciting performance-wise, but as a daily driver, it was the better car in almost every measure. Better overall quality, ride quality, fuel economy, ergonomics, storage, visibility, smaller and lighter.

I haven't settled on what that perfect future daily driver might be - maybe an EV? Or a BMW M2 Competition to stay with manual? I just know the Camaro would not be my first choice if I decide to go with one vehicle.

[funked1]

Originally Posted by Jaybub

I haven't picked up a Camaro yet, but I plan on it. Honestly, I really had my sights on the new Civic Type-R.

Right on. I came in from the same direction. I had wanted a Civic Type R since the EK9! I was about to buy a Civic Type R and decided to really cast a wide net to see what I could get for that money. The performance of the SS 1LE was just too much. I drove it once and that was the end of the Type R stuff!

All of my cars before this were 4 bangers, 2.0l or less:
'86 Civic Si (the OG!)
'87 Integra LS
'00 Civic Si
'03 WRX
'07 MR2 Spyder
'12 GTI
'15 BRZ

[Zaqwert6]

Originally Posted by Wyzz Kydd

My first car was a 69 GTO and my opinions about cars have been colored by that ever since.

It depends on what you're buying it for. I'm a huge muscle car addict but that serves a different god.


In that realm, from a kid in the 70's and 80's I've owned...


Mach 1 Mustang
460 BB Mustang Drag car



(3) Challengers 340/440/440
Hemi Barracuda (not originally)

Hemi GTX
(2)RoadRunners (1) Satellite
340 Dart
440 Duster


(2) Chevelle 327/496
350 Camaro


(I've probably missed some)



As a grown up lol, I've built around a dozen similar cars and currently have a 66 502 Chevelle in the back garage and another project or two on deck.



That said, there are many time in my life where I had to travel quite a bit for work. I'm just not going to do it in some econo box and I'm sure not going to do it in a 5 mpg Chevelle. So something imported, with some sporty tendencies and 30mpg fit in a fair bit better. Not to mention impeccable quality and service. Those cars NEVER saw a dealer, with 100k miles on them.



It's only in the last few years that my commute has dropped to just a few miles thus my daily drivers since have been either Corvettes (Z06) or the last two Gen 6s. There's a C8 Z51 order somewhere with my name it, if they ever start building it again.


Essentially the right tool for the job....IMO.

[Wyzz Kydd]

Originally Posted by Zaqwert6

It depends on what you're buying it for. I'm a huge muscle car addict but that serves a different god.


In that realm, from a kid in the 70's and 80's I've owned...


Mach 1 Mustang
460 BB Mustang Drag car



(3) Challengers 340/440/440
Hemi Barracuda (not originally)

Hemi GTX
(2)RoadRunners (1) Satellite
340 Dart
440 Duster


(2) Chevelle 327/496
350 Camaro


(I've probably missed some)



As a grown up lol, I've built around a dozen similar cars and currently have a 66 502 Chevelle in the back garage and another project or two on deck.



That said, there are many time in my life where I had to travel quite a bit for work. I'm just not going to do it in some econo box and I'm sure not going to do it in a 5 mpg Chevelle. So something imported, with some sporty tendencies and 30mpg fit in a fair bit better. Not to mention impeccable quality and service. Those cars NEVER saw a dealer, with 100k miles on them.



It's only in the last few years that my commute has dropped to just a few miles thus my daily drivers since have been either Corvettes (Z06) or the last two Gen 6s. There's a C8 Z51 order somewhere with my name it, if they ever start building it again.


Essentially the right tool for the job....IMO.

I agree, the right tool for the job, which is why when I was out in Colorado I went with the STI, the 4 wheel drive was just what I needed.

Having said that, even when I've been in the 'job appropriate' car, I've always wanted the V8 RWD experience.

I'll be getting a truck 'for' my wife next summer. If things go right it will be a Raptor, cause that's probably as close to a muscle car experience as you can get in a truck.

[MackSteelPrivateEye]

4 banger, Euro or ricer??….Good Heavens...no!

[I`m Batman]

I drive a FAT O' POTATER with all the fixins now... WITH EXTRA BUTTER!!! and bacon, hot dogs and hamburgers.

[conall]

My previous 2 cars were both Mazdas.
The last one was a 2.5 hatchback.
I only drive manuals, and both of the Mazdas had wimpy synchros and/or grabby gears that had to be milled down in order not to grind.

No problems with the 6 speed Camaro for 16k now!

[I`m Batman]

Originally Posted by HCI2000SS

Yeah 1LE is different, but a regular V6 Camaro and new Accord sport are surprising similar in handling believe it or not. I haven't pushed either car to its total limits, but I've pushed them pretty hard. ...

Maybe you're not pushing hard enough.


Accord Sport pull .85 lateral g vs Camaro RS .92g.

[foshjowler]

Originally Posted by I`m Batman

Maybe you're not pushing hard enough.


Accord Sport pull .85 lateral g vs Camaro RS .92g.

Stock RS on the all-season pulls .92g? That's more than I would have expected on some middle of the road tires. Other than some on-ramps, I'm not so sure I'd want to be pulling much more than that on the street.

Edit: I did some more looking, and for reference the 370z pulls .89g, the BRZ .90g, and the Ecoboost Mustang .92. Those are probably what I would consider the closest competitors

[HCI2000SS]

Originally Posted by I`m Batman

Maybe you're not pushing hard enough.


Accord Sport pull .85 lateral g vs Camaro RS .92g.

That might be possible. Are those numbers with both on all season tires?

[Coded4SS]

I've had:
05 Cobalt SS S/C
2011 v6 mustang
2010 mustang GT
2015? Mazda 3
2016 wrx
2015 mustang GT
Now Camaro SS 1le

I still really really want a GTI. But my girlfriend is not having anything with that "square box" lmao

[I`m Batman]

Originally Posted by HCI2000SS

That might be possible. Are those numbers with both on all season tires?

Those should stock off the factory tires.
It is the Alpha chassis after all.

[HCI2000SS]

Originally Posted by I`m Batman

Those should stock off the factory tires.
It is the Alpha chassis after all.

I guess unless it's the 1LE V6 (which uses summer tires) then the regular V6 and Accord both use all seasons from the factory. Since the Camaro is RWD, that alone should help it over the Accord even if they were on the exact same chassis. I wonder if the new Accord chassis could be very competitive with the Alpha, if all else was equal.