[Scottyz]

Originally Posted by Coded4SS

To support the lack of oil thing here:
I had a brand new Chevy Colorado (not a performance car I know but stick with me). I drove it hard, redlined it, pulled a ton of weight for work daily, drove all over the place. 25k miles on the stock factory oil, it burned it and was knocking. I eventually replaced it (4 quarts low so it had about one). That same engine went 250k miles before the engine was replaced. So if someone started your car with no oil after a change I just really doubt catostrophic failure occured. Coinsidences DO happen and they are never timely. That whole "it worked when I came in and now it dosnt" isn't true with so many thing. I'm a network engineer, and I used to build police cars. I've heard that line a small handful of times and every single time it wasn't the fault or result of anything done during service.

Good luck

100% agree. But, if it wasn’t filled and was taken for a ride with no oil and a tech wasn’t paying attention to the dash then it’s a possibility. The OP doesn’t know the mileage before it went in. I’ve been a licensed tech and heavy equipment tech for 25 years. Hell I have a brand new John Deere 710L that dropped a valve on startup. It’s got 24 hours in it. It never made it 3 shifts. It happens.
I’ve seen my fair share of shadyness on both sides of the fence. The engine coulda dropped or popped a valve too.
Maybe the engine did ingest coolant for some reason.
We could also say the OP should have taken it to his performance shop instead of the dealer. Should have been there with the tech at the dealership to watch. Or should have been more concerned when after 45 minutes or and hour his vehicle still wasn’t done.
Shoulda, coulda, woulda.
The suspense is great in this one that’s for sure.

[Scottyz]

I hope to you guys I’m not coming across as argumentative. It’s not like that. Agree with everything said her pretty much. But I have also seen engines not filled with oil and failure very soon after. That’s all.

Heres some comedy relief for us. Although for myself it was pissing me off.
As I mentioned I worked with a guy who failed to fill the managers wife’s car with oil and not far the engine gave.
This guy now works at the dealer where I bought my car. The guy is a great guy and when he heard I was buying the car he made sure nobody touched it. Cool.
When my street rims and rubber arrived he mounted the first tire on the rim and sent me a picture.
Note: they don’t let this guy do mechanical work anymore. Just PDI”s.
Notice anything in the picture?

[Coded4SS]

Originally Posted by Scottyz

100% agree. But, if it wasn’t filled and was taken for a ride with no oil and a tech wasn’t paying attention to the dash then it’s a possibility. The OP doesn’t know the mileage before it went in. I’ve been a licensed tech and heavy equipment tech for 25 years. Hell I have a brand new John Deere 710L that dropped a valve on startup. It’s got 24 hours in it. It never made it 3 shifts. It happens.
I’ve seen my fair share of shadyness on both sides of the fence. The engine coulda dropped or popped a valve too.
Maybe the engine did ingest coolant for some reason.
We could also say the OP should have taken it to his performance shop instead of the dealer. Should have been there with the tech at the dealership to watch. Or should have been more concerned when after 45 minutes or and hour his vehicle still wasn’t done.
Shoulda, coulda, woulda.
The suspense is great in this one that’s for sure.

Ya your right on that. It's also why I haven't modded my car yet. GM is big on excuses with stock cars let alone a modded one. I really hope it works out in OP favor for all of our sake. Needless to say it is great suspense and I'll be sharing this story because it's better then Jerry Springer in the 90s. Sorry Op not trying to be the negative here, I don't trust the dealerships at all so I'd love to see them fix this

[Scottyz]

No guesses on the picture coded?

[Rnovrit]

Originally Posted by Scottyz

No guesses on the picture coded?

I will take a wild guess and say no tire lube, scuff marks on the lip of the wheel and most noticeably the tire is on backwards/ inside is out.

[Scottyz]

Originally Posted by Rnovrit

I will take a wild guess and say no tire lube, scuff marks on the lip of the wheel and most noticeably the tire is on backwards/ inside is out.

Winner winner chicken dinner. Tire on backwards. Thankfully no scuffs or marks. I was surprised at that🙄

[Rnovrit]

Originally Posted by Scottyz

Winner winner chicken dinner. Tire on backwards. Thankfully no scuffs or marks. I was surprised at that��

This brings up one of my favorite sayings. “No brains, no headaches “ lol! (The guy installing the tire)

[Scottyz]

😂😂😂

[MrChrisLS3]

Really is a tough situation.

The likelihood that the tech didn't replace the oil, or left the oil plug out, is pretty slim. Even more so that they would've put coolant in the crankcase. Could it happen, sure, but the probability is pretty small.

Could the techs have had some "fun" with the car? Maybe, but I would be almost certain that they wouldn't have done anything the owner hasn't done a hundred times. Revving, maybe a quick run down the road? However, think about this, that is the kind of stuff that gets people fired.

Coolant out of the tailpipe? Sure, if there was a leak, or failure in the intercooler somewhere, that just happened to give it up right there. Coolant goes into the intake, fills a cylinder, some gets out before the exhaust valve closes and then the cylinder hydro locks on compression stroke. If it hadn't of happened in the shop bay, it would've happened on the way home.

All I can say is this. If, and this is just an 'if', the owner knew there was an issue and is now using this as a chance to get that issue fixed on someone else's dime, shame on him. If he gets his way, there will be someone or someone(s) out of a job causing misery in their lives, for no good reason or fault of their own.

Or, if the techs at the dealership, really did screw up, and the dealership is trying to duck the heat. In that case, shame on them for trying to put it on the owner, causing misery in his life.

[L78toLT1]

Originally Posted by Coded4SS

Ya your right on that. It's also why I haven't modded my car yet. GM is big on excuses with stock cars let alone a modded one. I really hope it works out in OP favor for all of our sake. Needless to say it is great suspense and I'll be sharing this story because it's better then Jerry Springer in the 90s. Sorry Op not trying to be the negative here, I don't trust the dealerships at all so I'd love to see them fix this

GM doesn't have a dog in the fight as this is obviously not a warranty situation. It's between the op and the dealer. Reflecting on things a bit more, I wonder who is going to perform the autopsy on the motor? The dealer isn't going to do it on his own dime, and he shouldn't be expected to.

[Scottyz]

Originally Posted by L78toLT1

GM doesn't have a dog in the fight as this is obviously not a warranty situation. It's between the op and the dealer. Reflecting on things a bit more, I wonder who is going to perform the autopsy on the motor? The dealer isn't going to do it on his own dime, and he shouldn't be expected to.

Hence why I said third party getting a qualified third party agreed to by both parties.
This really is a nightmare of a situation.

[DONATI_ZL1_1LE]

I don’t trust the dealer to change my oil.

[BlueinTN]

The term hydrolock is used when so much fluid is ingested into a cylinder the motor locks and damage has or could have been done. Like if you drove thru a deep water and "hydrolocked" the motor. Air is compressible fluids are not.


This is not the same as running an engine with out oil until the point of damage or locked up.



I cant ever remember ever hearing of a motor hydrolocked from a blow head gasket. Not saying it cant happen but to me the failure would be the head cracked.


Something with the dealer doesn't make any sense.

[Tank22]

This is why I leave my car in sport and have the memory card in... PDR tells the story