Vengeance racing stage 2 cam or 3? Which to choose?

Beto6.2 · 05-03-2020, 11:28 AM

Good morning

I currently have a 18 ZL1 Camaro A10 with full bolt ons and e I'm going to cam it soon. I want to go with the vengeance racing stage 3 cam. Will that cam be good for my application doing a 2650 blower next year. Or should I go with a stage 2 from vengeance racing. Thanks

Fast02Z06 · 05-03-2020, 11:37 AM

Bigger isn’t always better op. I would suggest seeing which is more driver friendly and would you need a torque converter (idk if you are A10 or M6). Also find out where each cam has it’s power band too. I had a btr stage 3 blower cam in my ctsv wagon with fbo and it to me was a perfect combo. This was 5 years ago too mind you

Markoz28 · 05-03-2020, 11:40 AM

I have no experience with Vengeance but have a stage 3 cam from Cammotion. It drives great, makes amazing power, and sounds amazing. I kinda wish I did the stage 2 instead so it wouldn’t buck so much at stop lights. Other than that, I love it.

Obviously the Vengeance and the Cammotion stage 3 will be cut different. Just ask them about the characteristics of the cam and what it will and will not do and go from there.

If you are doing a cam and 2650 prepare yourself for a bunch of power!

RDBill · 05-03-2020, 12:34 PM

I would call and ask for David Crunkleton. Tell him what you have done, what you're expecting to do in the future and ask him what cam is best for you. They're the experts, they know why they have 2 different cams and what to expect from them.

Repman · 05-03-2020, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RDBill

I would call and ask for David Crunkleton. Tell him what you have done, what you're expecting to do in the future and ask him what cam is best for you. They're the experts, they know why they have 2 different cams and what to expect from them.

David does not work there anymore ask for Branden Leeb

Ron_Robinson1 · 05-03-2020, 03:34 PM

Manuel or Auto?

SJFGTO · 05-03-2020, 05:03 PM

Ask Branden or Ron at Vengeance. No one will have a more accurate answer than the guys at Vengeance who designed these cams and who install them every day. They are great guys and will be happy to help. FWIW, an internet poll is absolutely the worst way to select a cam.

Beto6.2 · 05-07-2020, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Fast02Z06

Bigger isn’t always better op. I would suggest seeing which is more driver friendly and would you need a torque converter (idk if you are A10 or M6). Also find out where each cam has it’s power band too. I had a btr stage 3 blower cam in my ctsv wagon with fbo and it to me was a perfect combo. This was 5 years ago too mind you

Stage 3 does require a torque converter.. that would be my other question on which one to run? A10 sorry forgot to add that. And will do more research on the power band. And that's awesome can you send me a video of your car idling. What do you currently drive now?

Beto6.2 · 05-07-2020, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Markoz28

I have no experience with Vengeance but have a stage 3 cam from Cammotion. It drives great, makes amazing power, and sounds amazing. I kinda wish I did the stage 2 instead so it wouldn’t buck so much at stop lights. Other than that, I love it.

Obviously the Vengeance and the Cammotion stage 3 will be cut different. Just ask them about the characteristics of the cam and what it will and will not do and go from there.

If you are doing a cam and 2650 prepare yourself for a bunch of power!

Nice.. did you have to change your converter? And I'm open to any stage 3 at this point. And send me a video of your car idling would like to hear it thanks.

Beto6.2 · 05-07-2020, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RDBill

I would call and ask for David Crunkleton. Tell him what you have done, what you're expecting to do in the future and ask him what cam is best for you. They're the experts, they know why they have 2 different cams and what to expect from them.

Will do

Beto6.2 · 05-07-2020, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron_Robinson1

Manuel or Auto?

Auto sorry forgot to add that lol

Beto6.2 · 05-07-2020, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SJFGTO

Ask Branden or Ron at Vengeance. No one will have a more accurate answer than the guys at Vengeance who designed these cams and who install them every day. They are great guys and will be happy to help. FWIW, an internet poll is absolutely the worst way to select a cam.

Will do thanks

Beto6.2 · 05-07-2020, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Repman

David does not work there anymore ask for Branden Leeb

Emailing him right now

Thanks

Markoz28 · 05-07-2020, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Beto6.2

Nice.. did you have to change your converter? And I'm open to any stage 3 at this point. And send me a video of your car idling would like to hear it thanks.

https://youtu.be/cTxC3FKxMiA

I did not have to change the convertor but anything more than this and you will.

05-03-2020, 11:28 AM	#1
Beto6.2 Drives: ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Phx Az Posts: 37 View My Garage	Vengeance racing stage 2 cam or 3? Which to choose? Good morning I currently have a 18 ZL1 Camaro A10 with full bolt ons and e I'm going to cam it soon. I want to go with the vengeance racing stage 3 cam. Will that cam be good for my application doing a 2650 blower next year. Or should I go with a stage 2 from vengeance racing. Thanks Last edited by Beto6.2; 05-07-2020 at 12:41 PM.

05-03-2020, 03:34 PM	#6
Ron_Robinson1 Drives: A Static line to a pack tray & ZL1 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Centeral NY Posts: 2,277	Manuel or Auto? __________________ 2017 ZL1 A10: 8.84 @ 156 PB 2017 ZL1 A10: Previously FBO 756/761 (9.6 @ 143 1/4) SOLD-2013 ZL1 M6:BTR,LTs,IDs,ATI,RotoFab10.84@129 SOLD-2011 SS M6: Blower, Cam, Alky, LTs.

05-03-2020, 05:03 PM	#7
SJFGTO Oh Oh it's Friday Night! Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Nightfall Gray Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Walton Woods Posts: 1,073	Ask Branden or Ron at Vengeance. No one will have a more accurate answer than the guys at Vengeance who designed these cams and who install them every day. They are great guys and will be happy to help. FWIW, an internet poll is absolutely the worst way to select a cam. __________________ 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE NFG; ARH 2” headers, catless mids, ARH full exhaust, Lingenfelter 18% lower pulley, ATI Harmonic Balancer, Roto-fab CAI, EE-catch can, TM ported TB, NX Lid, BMR strut tower brace. Aeroforce dual pod interceptor gauges. Tuned by Vengeance Racing!!! 644 HP @ 6250 rpm / 689 trq @ 3660 rpm Four that wanna own me Two that wanna stone me One says she's a friend of mine...

05-03-2020, 11:37 AM	#2
Fast02Z06 Drives: 2018 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Houston tx Posts: 144	Bigger isn’t always better op. I would suggest seeing which is more driver friendly and would you need a torque converter (idk if you are A10 or M6). Also find out where each cam has it’s power band too. I had a btr stage 3 blower cam in my ctsv wagon with fbo and it to me was a perfect combo. This was 5 years ago too mind you

05-03-2020, 11:40 AM	#3
Markoz28 Drives: 18 ZL1 nightfall grey A10 Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: RGV Texas Posts: 1,527	I have no experience with Vengeance but have a stage 3 cam from Cammotion. It drives great, makes amazing power, and sounds amazing. I kinda wish I did the stage 2 instead so it wouldn’t buck so much at stop lights. Other than that, I love it. Obviously the Vengeance and the Cammotion stage 3 will be cut different. Just ask them about the characteristics of the cam and what it will and will not do and go from there. If you are doing a cam and 2650 prepare yourself for a bunch of power!

05-03-2020, 12:34 PM	#4
RDBill 902HP 858TQ Drives: 2018 ZL1 A10 Join Date: May 2018 Location: New Jersey Posts: 135	I would call and ask for David Crunkleton. Tell him what you have done, what you're expecting to do in the future and ask him what cam is best for you. They're the experts, they know why they have 2 different cams and what to expect from them.

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