[Orangeman13]

Will there be a Camaro beyond 2023?

[90503]

Originally Posted by Orangeman13

Will there be a Camaro beyond 2023?

GM probably working on the answer as we speak..."Not Very Likely" is what they are seeing...

[LateBrakeU2]

Originally Posted by 90503

GM probably working on the answer as we speak..."Not Very Likely" is what they are seeing...

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[95 imp]

Originally Posted by 90503

GM probably working on the answer as we speak..."Not Very Likely" is what they are seeing...

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From the pic, it looks like Mary, the Head of Advertising, The President of GM Performance, and The President of North American Operations are having a high level meeting about it.

[vtirocz]

Originally Posted by closs2sx

The 1/4 mile time is not competitive at all. Ford claims 10.7 for mustang and Chevy claims 11.4 heck the mustang is .2 quicker to 60 mph. In the drag world that’s a country mile

https://hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/fi...1581472482.pdf

Looks competitive to me. Both C&D and Motortrend got similar results for the GT500 vs. ZL1.

My prior comment was primarily referring to the models that sell in significant volumes (LT & SS). The performance on those models are very competitive compared to the competition and those are the ones GM needs to sell a lot of.

If the SS had 485hp instead of 455, I don’t think the sales would change much.

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by Petrol Head

Anyone come up with a nice houndstooth black and white pattern that would look good on modern Camaros? That was my favorite interior color from the old muscle car era.

I too love the old houndstooth interior. Very classy, old school look that is timeless IMO.

[cooldawg]

Dodge hasn’t changed much other than offering the redeye. That is a very overpriced option but still cool.

I love the ZL1 both LE and otherwise, but here’s what Dodge Challenger has on the Camaro:

1) power dollars. The Chevy rebates stink- especially given their market position.
2) challenger offers many more options to customize/ personalize.
3) color selection- far more options/ changes there. Why get away from bright yellow and Rally green? Does it really cost that much more to supply a greater range of colors? Why no interior options in that regard.

I think Chevy placed all their eggs in the Corvette basket... Camaro has been chosen to wither on the vine. If they make it electric, it will die. Just my opinion.

[closs2sx]

Originally Posted by vtirocz

https://hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/fi...1581472482.pdf

Looks competitive to me. Both C&D and Motortrend got similar results for the GT500 vs. ZL1.

My prior comment was primarily referring to the models that sell in significant volumes (LT & SS). The performance on those models are very competitive compared to the competition and those are the ones GM needs to sell a lot of.

If the SS had 485hp instead of 455, I don’t think the sales would change much.

look at the hp per lb and the rear gears in each then the hp and the mph at the trap from that data and you surely don't think the camaro is competitive in the 1/4 when traction is not an issue.

[396ssrat]

Originally Posted by closs2sx

The 1/4 mile time is not competitive at all. Ford claims 10.7 for mustang and Chevy claims 11.4 heck the mustang is .2 quicker to 60 mph. In the drag world that’s a country mile

Camaros weren't built for the drag world apparently.

[vtirocz]

Originally Posted by closs2sx

look at the hp per lb and the rear gears in each then the hp and the mph at the trap from that data and you surely don't think the camaro is competitive in the 1/4 when traction is not an issue.

IF traction is not an issue, I agree. But I’d say LT and SS sales are much more relevant to this discussion than the ZL1/ZL1 1LE vs GT500.

[Pupilbone]

Originally Posted by cooldawg

Dodge hasn’t changed much other than offering the redeye. That is a very overpriced option but still cool.

I love the ZL1 both LE and otherwise, but here’s what Dodge Challenger has on the Camaro:

1) power dollars. The Chevy rebates stink- especially given their market position.
2) challenger offers many more options to customize/ personalize.
3) color selection- far more options/ changes there. Why get away from bright yellow and Rally green? Does it really cost that much more to supply a greater range of colors? Why no interior options in that regard.

I think Chevy placed all their eggs in the Corvette basket... Camaro has been chosen to wither on the vine. If they make it electric, it will die. Just my opinion.

^ This post, and the last statement sums it all up. Cooldawg is on point with his electric comment as well IMO. Personally I don’t think the electric thing will happen, but if it did, it would just be the new way to spell doom for Camaro.

I love Camaro, and am happy I’ve got my keeper, but the signs are all there.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by cooldawg

Dodge hasn’t changed much other than offering the redeye. That is a very overpriced option but still cool.

I love the ZL1 both LE and otherwise, but here’s what Dodge Challenger has on the Camaro:

1) power dollars. The Chevy rebates stink- especially given their market position.
2) challenger offers many more options to customize/ personalize.
3) color selection- far more options/ changes there. Why get away from bright yellow and Rally green? Does it really cost that much more to supply a greater range of colors? Why no interior options in that regard.

I think Chevy placed all their eggs in the Corvette basket... Camaro has been chosen to wither on the vine. If they make it electric, it will die. Just my opinion.

I also don’t understand why a wider selection of colors is so difficult. Pool the orders for lower volume colors and run them in batches.

[Orangeman13]

Originally Posted by 95 imp

From the pic, it looks like Mary, the Head of Advertising, The President of GM Performance, and The President of North American Operations are having a high level meeting about it.

When do you think we will know?

[MackSteelPrivateEye]

Originally Posted by Orangeman13

Will there be a Camaro beyond 2023?

The way that outfit is being run, they will be making just boring Electric cars along with kitchen toasters.