01-29-2020, 09:07 AM | #15 |
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This is just like every day, real life test!
You will not always line up to a car that hase new tires, clutch, race gas, full or 1/4 tank... |
01-29-2020, 09:29 AM | #16 |
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In this case, the GT 500 was supplied by Ford. I know the ZLE owner.
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01-29-2020, 09:31 AM | #17 |
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This was the best comparison of the three cars I have seen yet. They actually used a regular ZL1 A10 for dig racing.
But the ZL1 won in 2/3 categories and is $20,000 cheaper than both cars fully loaded. I think the clear winner is the ZL1 here. |
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ZL1 FTW
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01-29-2020, 09:33 AM | #19 |
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Seems pretty obvious the CFTP does not provide enough performance to justify its price tag.
I wonder if the guys that have already bought one are upset at its lackluster performance per dollar, seems very reminiscent of the GT350 discussions we have had. Ford just cannot compete, with all things equal they are frankly outclassed up against GM.
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01-29-2020, 09:34 AM | #21 |
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It's not apples-to-apples, but add some power to ZL1 and bald eagles would sing the National Anthem.
Also - it's probably also why Ford didn't want to quote any times except for acceleration... I love their reviews, HAHAHA. There wasn't much that was that unexpected though. Everyone knows Hellcats are not to be trifled with on the street. They're a sticky tire away from boggin' deep. I figured the imp would be a better usable car (which is why I knew I couldn't put up with a 1LE, lol). But ZLE is at home on a track and that's where it proves over-and-over to shine - YEARS after it's been out. And sorry - I just watched a Cleetus video...
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01-29-2020, 09:35 AM | #22 |
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They know how fast the ZLE is. Having an 'excuse' for why the 500 losses saves face, at least long enough for people to buy the CFTP before the word is out.
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01-29-2020, 09:56 AM | #23 |
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Interesting that Randy thinks the GT500 will make up a full second on a 1:28 course with fresher tires.
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01-29-2020, 10:20 AM | #24 |
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This is the drag race i was dieing to see...a regular ZL1 A10 smoked those dudes from a dig! Love it!!!
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01-29-2020, 10:26 AM | #25 |
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I would like to see these 3 at the Drag Strip they have put them in an arena were the Camaro shines as it should, they keep talking about how the Redeye is made for the 1/4 mile Track, ok so the Redeye is made for the Drag strip so lets see that match up.
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I love these reviews. So much more entertaining than MT. Always been a fan of Jason Cammisa. Even if it did, to me the CFTP still doesn't justify its price tag. |
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01-29-2020, 10:31 AM | #27 |
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I just absolutely love how excited blaq got in this thread, you can almost picture him wiggling in his chair lol.
THAT was adorable. The ZL1 is a beast as usual! |
01-29-2020, 10:32 AM | #28 |
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One thing I noticed, neither car put in a impressive lap time. Heck a reg zl1 had a faster time of 1:26.16. A ss 1le did it in 1:28.29 which is the same time as the 350R.
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