[RobbyBeefcake87]

Originally Posted by minn19

Especially in the rain, agreed. People are saying it could be a fuel issue, which considering what a genius this guy seems to be, I wonder if he accidentally put 87 in it.

Idling doesn’t really warm a car up.

He claimed to have put 91, however was unsure of the fuel put in before deliver (probably 93), idk exactly how long he was driving it but to his credit the car was moving and driving for a while before he gave it the beans.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by RobbyBeefcake87

He claimed to have put 91, however was unsure of the fuel put in before deliver (probably 93), idk exactly how long he was driving it but to his credit the car was moving and driving for a while before he gave it the beans.

The one right off the truck he didn’t wait, but yes later he did wait. That’s what I mean, he says he put 91 in. He doesn’t strike me as the type of guy that readily admits to mistakes.

With that much HP/TQ I wonder if 91 is enough. I gotta admit I don’t know enough about the GT500 to know.

I see three (4) scenarios that are believable here.

1. Guy (is he really the one gassing it up or is it one of his employees) didn’t really put in 91.

2. He or an employee did put in 91 and the Predator isn’t a fan at high throttle applications of it.

3. It’s a modern Ford engine and it broke.

Edit: 4. Lot guy at the dealer put 87 in it.

[TreedYou]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Looks like one already has problems...

https://youtu.be/gMdw07QZd3E

Damn shame, I have a few rules.


1. don't beat on a cold engine.
2. don't bounce off limiters like a ricer.
3. there will be no ice cream in my cars.

[ZRacerLE]

Originally Posted by TreedYou

Damn shame, I have a few rules.


1. don't beat on a cold engine.
2. don't bounce off limiters like a ricer.
3. there will be no ice cream in my car.

Lol! Nice

[JB'sZL1]

Originally Posted by minn19

With that much HP/TQ I wonder if 91 is enough. I gotta admit I don’t know enough about the GT500 to know.

Edit: 4. Lot guy at the dealer put 87 in it.

Yeah...91 is the highest available in Las Vegas at the pump...and who knows what was installed at the dealer.

[BlaqWhole]

So the C8 Z51 is essentially a $65K vehicle while the GT500 is a $74K and $94K vehicle. And we can see how they perform in comparison. However, how would the GT500 do when up against cars that cost the same amount or more? Some GT500s will be in the $100K - $105K range easily. So what if we put it up against a GTR which, BTW, has much less HP and TQ?? Right now these guys are all fapping to it and talking about how it is a killer and all kinds of shit. But all we have seen is it against a bottom tier C8. If it is a World beater then why are we not seeing comparisons with some of the top Supercars? Or how about since they tested virtually a GT500 with a $30K MSRP tag over a Corvette (based on bare minimums), how about turning the tables and putting it up against a Vette that costs less than $30K more? ZR1!! For all the talk about how great this car is they sure gave it a severe advantage.

[TreedYou]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

So the C8 Z51 is essentially a $65K vehicle while the GT500 is a $74K and $94K vehicle. And we can see how they perform in comparison. However, how would the GT500 do when up against cars that cost the same amount or more? Some GT500s will be in the $100K - $105K range easily. So what if we put it up against a GTR which, BTW, has much less HP and TQ?? Right now these guys are all fapping to it and talking about how it is a killer and all kinds of shit. But all we have seen is it against a bottom tier C8. If it is a World beater then why are we not seeing comparisons with some of the top Supercars? Or how about since they tested virtually a GT500 with a $30K MSRP tag over a Corvette (based on bare minimums), how about turning the tables and putting it up against a Vette that costs less than $30K more? ZR1!! For all the talk about how great this car is they sure gave it a severe advantage.

The Mustang never was and never will be a supercar wtf?? who said it was?
It's not even the same type of vehicle as a vette or any actual supercar.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by TreedYou

The Mustang never was and never will be a supercar wtf?? who said it was?
It's not even the same type of vehicle as a vette or any actual supercar.

Trust me on this, I know it ain't no Supercar. I never said it was.

But isn't it supposed to be able to kill Supercars? Everytime a Vette gets tested against something it has to battle up. Either against a Supercar or a car with 265 more HP and a $10K to $30K steeper price tag or something or another. I don't recall seeing a Vette in a challenge where it did not have the handicap. So here comes the latest and greatest from Frod. 760 HP and a $74K to $94K price tag. Over $100K when optioned. Why not put it up against a GTR? The C8 was priced as optioned/tested in the same range as the GT500. Why not option a GT500 to ZR1 price tags and then put it against a ZR1 with no add-ons and see how it does?

[BlaqWhole]

The C8 Z51 was optioned up by over $20K. And then it faced the CF GT500 which was still about $7K more expensive. So turn the tables. Option the CF GT500 match it to a car that is still about $7K more expensive with no addons and let them play.

[TreedYou]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Trust me on this, I know it ain't no Supercar. I never said it was.

But isn't it supposed to be able to kill Supercars? Everytime a Vette gets tested against something it has to battle up. Either against a Supercar or a car with 265 more HP and a $10K to $30K steeper price tag or something or another. I don't recall seeing a Vette in a challenge where it did not have the handicap. So here comes the latest and greatest from Frod. 760 HP and a $74K to $94K price tag. Over $100K when optioned. Why not put it up against a GTR? The C8 was priced as optioned/tested in the same range as the GT500. Why not option a GT500 to ZR1 price tags and then put it against a ZR1 with no add-ons and see how it does?

Isn't it supposed to be able to, why would it?

I understand it's pretty much the most expensive mustang ever but it is still a mustang.

It is still a brick in the wind and it still is heavy as hell and seats 4 people. So it's a hell of a stretch to call it a super car killer or relate it to REAL supercars and expect it to beat them.
I am sure magazines and people can compare it to whatever they want, the vette is closer to a supercar, it's what 500lbs lighter? and arrow shaped, mid-engine etc... I am pretty sure we all know the gt500 will get obliterated by a ZR1 (another 2 seater lighter sports car).


What if dodge comes out with a "hellcat" minivan and make it super expensive? will we say it's time to compare it to corvettes and what not?
You're super stuck on price it seems you won't even post without mentioning it. THEY ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT CARS.


You can also get a 2019 Lotus Elise for 85-100k, how come nobody is comparing it to the corvette? it's a two seater sports car too.
And in your eyes probably the worst bang for the buck in the universe.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by TreedYou

Isn't it supposed to be able to, why would it?

I understand it's pretty much the most expensive mustang ever but it is still a mustang.

It is still a brick in the wind and it still is heavy as hell and seats 4 people. So it's a hell of a stretch to call it a super car killer or relate it to REAL supercars and expect it to beat them.
I am sure magazines and people can compare it to whatever they want, the vette is closer to a supercar, it's what 500lbs lighter? and arrow shaped, mid-engine etc... I am pretty sure we all know the gt500 will get obliterated by a ZR1 (another 2 seater lighter sports car).


What if dodge comes out with a "hellcat" minivan and make it super expensive? will we say it's time to compare it to corvettes and what not?
You're super stuck on price it seems you won't even post without mentioning it. THEY ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT CARS.

We're not talking about Dodge. We are talking about the GT500 which is priced well within the range of Supercar territory. And it is priced similar to cars that HAVE beat Supercars. And not for nothing, but it enjoyed a severe advantage in price and power against the C8 Z51. So again, why not turn the tables and see how it does when in the same shoes? Judging by your replies I can pretty much assume that you know it wouldn't stand a chance. Which is where you and I differ. Because I would LOVE to see the $70K 650HP ZLE take on the $94K 760HP GT500. And I bet the ZLE will win. You have some hang up with giving the GT500 the same disadvantage.

My thought is that despite the price, the GT500 is NOT a good performance value. It's #1 competitor is the ZLE. And the only car it has been pitted against was a 495 HP C8. Let the GTR or C7 Z06 or Z7 ZR1 play with it and see what happens.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by TreedYou

You can also get a 2019 Lotus Elise for 85-100k, how come nobody is comparing it to the corvette? it's a two seater sports car too.
And in your eyes probably the worst bang for the buck in the universe.

I wouldn't buy an Elise if it was $30K.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by TreedYou

Isn't it supposed to be able to, why would it?

I understand it's pretty much the most expensive mustang ever but it is still a mustang.

It is still a brick in the wind and it still is heavy as hell and seats 4 people. So it's a hell of a stretch to call it a super car killer or relate it to REAL supercars and expect it to beat them.
I am sure magazines and people can compare it to whatever they want, the vette is closer to a supercar, it's what 500lbs lighter? and arrow shaped, mid-engine etc... I am pretty sure we all know the gt500 will get obliterated by a ZR1 (another 2 seater lighter sports car).


What if dodge comes out with a "hellcat" minivan and make it super expensive? will we say it's time to compare it to corvettes and what not?
You're super stuck on price it seems you won't even post without mentioning it. THEY ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT CARS.


You can also get a 2019 Lotus Elise for 85-100k, how come nobody is comparing it to the corvette? it's a two seater sports car too.
And in your eyes probably the worst bang for the buck in the universe.

Ford (and their fanboys are throwing around supercar this and that) "supercar-level powertrain" in their marketing materials. There is more from Ford themselves, but I don't have time to look.

https://media.ford.com/content/fordm...lby-gt500.html

Plus as you know the CFTPPPTPTPTP Ford GT500RRRRRRRR is a two seater from the factory.

[TreedYou]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

We're not talking about Dodge. We are talking about the GT500 which is priced well within the range of Supercar territory. And it is priced similar to cars that HAVE beat Supercars. And not for nothing, but it enjoyed a severe advantage in price and power against the C8 Z51. So again, why not turn the tables and see how it does when in the same shoes? Judging by your replies I can pretty much assume that you know it wouldn't stand a chance. Which is where you and I differ. Because I would LOVE to see the $70K 650HP ZLE take on the $94K 760HP GT500. And I bet the ZLE will win. You have some hang up with giving the GT500 the same disadvantage.

My thought is that despite the price, the GT500 is NOT a good performance value. It's #1 competitor is the ZLE. And the only car it has been pitted against was a 495 HP C8. Let the GTR or C7 Z06 or Z7 ZR1 play with it and see what happens.

Again, I think you're expecting too much out of a mustang.
Like I said, brick in the wind, heavy and seats 4.
And yes, the corvette is the better performance bargain, you'd have to be blind not to acknowledge that but the people buying these cars obviously are able to drop some serious money on them without too much thought or excel spread sheets on price per horsepower etc...



I'd love to see the ZLE vs GT500 too and that should be the next magazine race for sure because they are direct competitors.

On performance "VALUE" the GT500 is a heavy car that run's 10's with a user that doesn't have to know how to drive and a hand built engine AND it can actually handle very well. And (in my eyes) looks very killer. So it does have performance value, but not a SUPER AWESOME performance value for the cost. The base model is more of a value for what most people are going to do with the car.

Again lots of people in this price range aren't crying about 20k here and 10k there though so it's a bit of a different vibe when you are able to plop down that kind of cash.