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I do not hate the GT500. If I could find one at MSRP I would buy one for sure. So you're off your rocker if you think that. However these are things that are important when discussing the performance of a performance-built vehicle. If we were talking Lexus vs Infinity and the Lexus had $20K in upgrades over the Infinity then there would be a night and day difference between those cars. Or if you put a $$70K Sierra 1500 up against a $50K F-150 there would be a huge gap between those trucks. Or a $70K X5 against a $50K Explorer. So you can try to ignore it since it doesn't help your argument, but even a few of the Mustang guys have admitted that at the price of the CF GT500 it would have to really beat the ZLE. |
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12-19-2019, 06:53 PM | #5478 |
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Ugh, the struggle is real man!!!
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12-19-2019, 06:58 PM | #5480 |
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12-19-2019, 07:15 PM | #5481 |
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12-19-2019, 08:52 PM | #5482 |
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Lund worked with hp tuners on this one.
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12-20-2019, 06:23 AM | #5483 | |
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Some people are going to buy the car because they want the car and the extra $ is not an issue and performance? We are talking about a 700+ hp car... there is not any performance lacking, TRUST that nobody is going to the damn nurburgring and the drag strip with their car. All these silly quotes of track times, and tenths of seconds are just forum talk. You really think people are making multi-thousand dollar decisions because of a second somewhere? If you like a car, you like it for more than how fast it can go on xxxx. And also these are street cars where 99% of their lives will be going to get ice cream not living at the drag strip or road course to beat on the car. |
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12-20-2019, 08:16 AM | #5484 |
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That's been my question are there any same track numbers for both the C8 Z51 and the ZLE? I would think that the ZLE would be faster.
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12-20-2019, 09:00 AM | #5485 |
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A video of a guy taking his own zl1 1le got a faster lap time at VIR full then the pro Pobst did in the c8z51. So I would guess in a pros hand, the 1le will be much faster.
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12-20-2019, 09:33 AM | #5486 |
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A ZLE will be significantly faster than a C8Z51 I predict. As it should. It's the same case for the GT500 CFTP. The halo camaro and halo mustang SHOULD be faster than the entry level Corvette. C8Z will be significantly faster than those two.
... and if you think about the camaro and mustang are the old generations compared to the C8. I'm hoping we're starting to see a new trend of the halo camaro and mustang running with the equivalent generation Z06. In this case it would be the C7 Z06. If I'm right, the next gen camaro (I believe it's coming) and mustang halos will run with the C8Z. Nothing will ever run with a ZR1 except for the BRAND's halo car like the viper or ford gt. You won't see camaro or mustang lap with a ZR1 of equal generation... just my bench racing opinion, ha! Last edited by ZRacerLE; 12-20-2019 at 09:43 AM. |
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Second part about price differences and whether the GT500 is worth $20+k more you are absolutely right on that no it's not. I've already said so many times a ZLE should still beat the CFTP on the track so spending way more money to lose definitely isn't worth it. This! |
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