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Old 12-18-2019, 01:56 PM   #5433
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I literally just answered your question shaffe. If we are comparing it to ZL1 magazine times then it can be considered a mid to high 11. At best it has done 10.8 thru Cars.com. But since Cars.com has not given a ZL1 the same treatment I do not think we can accurately compare that 10.8 to the ZL1's 11.4.
But you didn't answer my question exactly lol. What you said is you have seen them in the high 10s to low 11s but magazines have them as an 11.8. Which is about on par with what I have seen as well. I have seen them in the 10s and low 11s some stock some on tire.

My point is if someone asked me what a RE does in the 1/4 id say it's a high 10 low 11 second car as is. I wouldn't say it's an 11.80 car
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it has more power...its available power is like a set kof double Ds (no matter where your face is... theyre everywhere) it has the suspension to mame it matter...(
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Old 12-18-2019, 01:57 PM   #5434
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I mean, at least stagger the join dates a bit fellas. Don't be that obvious. Are ya'll that bored over on M6G?
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Old 12-18-2019, 01:59 PM   #5435
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But you didn't answer my question exactly lol. What you said is you have seen them in the high 10s to low 11s but magazines have them as an 11.8. Which is about on par with what I have seen as well. I have seen them in the 10s and low 11s some stock some on tire.

My point is if someone asked me what a RE does in the 1/4 id say it's a high 10 low 11 second car as is. I wouldn't say it's an 11.80 car
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Old 12-18-2019, 02:02 PM   #5436
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I'm not even on a car vs a car right now, you are literally trying to say that density altitude and traction problems aren't universal.

Let me add I've seen lots of STOCK, mustangs, corvettes, camaros, challengers.. with traction problem and running slower in high DA equally.


You saying forces of nature and physics don't apply to a certain car are mind boggling.
Depending on the hardware and calibration, the extent of performance degradation in less favorable ambient conditions could certainly differ between two different cars/designs.

Similarly, regarding traction, there's many variables (suspension design, weight over driven wheels, weight transfer) that would result in cars to perform differently on less favorable surface conditions.

I suspect that what's he's talking about.
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Old 12-18-2019, 03:41 PM   #5437
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I'm not even on a car vs a car right now, you are literally trying to say that density altitude and traction problems aren't universal.

Let me add I've seen lots of STOCK, mustangs, corvettes, camaros, challengers.. with traction problem and running slower in high DA equally.


You saying forces of nature and physics don't apply to a certain car are mind boggling.
Arent linear across all platforms is what he has been saying. As he explained some engines are more prone or effected by higher temperatures and cars like the Camaro SS have MASSIVE cooling where the Mustang GT doesnt. I am not sure what you arent following tbh.
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Old 12-18-2019, 03:46 PM   #5438
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I mean, at least stagger the join dates a bit fellas. Don't be that obvious. Are ya'll that bored over on M6G?
I did stagger them. I joined in 2011. When I owned the 2SS. Got banned in 14 for fighting with you and hotlap. Used my wife’s account every since. But I digress. A lot of your posts have to baffle even the most hard core Camaro guy. So I doubt they’re all M6 infiltrators.
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Old 12-18-2019, 03:53 PM   #5439
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I did stagger them. I joined in 2011. When I owned the 2SS. Got banned in 14 for fighting with you and hotlap. Used my wife’s account every since. But I digress. A lot of your posts have to baffle even the most hard core Camaro guy. So I doubt they’re all M6 infiltrators.
HAHAHAHAHAHA for real?

I love that you remember who you were fighting with when you got banned, 5 years ago now huh?
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Old 12-18-2019, 04:12 PM   #5440
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HAHAHAHAHAHA for real?

I love that you remember who you were fighting with when you got banned, 5 years ago now huh?
He wasn't fighting with me. Never happened.

Must be early onset dementia. He is often confused and assigns things to me that never happened.
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Old 12-18-2019, 04:21 PM   #5441
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I am just glad that the last gasp for internal combustion engines is going to be glorious. 450HP-750HP+ cars that can turn AND stop. At the AMG Driving Academy that I recently attended, AMG made a point of stating that the electric cars are coming. They will be burning dinosaurs for awhile, but they made it a point that it has an end time. Till then, we all get to drive cars that run faster than F1 cars in the not so distant past. Just for the record, the AMG GT-R is a very nice car. It is super on the track and doesn't look to kill you while it is at it.

I am an old guy. My first car was a 1967 Mustang. It was just 4 years old when I purchased it. The Mustang has come light years in those intervening decades. Mercy, my first GM product was a 1974 Chevy Monza, disposable 4 cylinder engine and all. I swore off American cars for a long period of time after that debacle.

Now we are debating cars that are faster, better built, contain more technology and have safety engineered into them that was science fiction in the 60's and 70's. Don't grasp at a single brand or car. Rather embrace and inhale all of this car goodness that may not last all that much longer.
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Old 12-18-2019, 04:22 PM   #5442
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He wasn't fighting with me. Never happened.

Must be early onset dementia. He is often confused and assigns things to me that never happened.
HAHAHA...darn, I got a kick out of him recollecting it, not sure why.
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Old 12-18-2019, 05:10 PM   #5443
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Lund racing 2020 gt500 mods: tune , octane boost , mid pipes and air box removed makes 786 rwhp. Pulley and e85 probably close to 900rwhp


https://www.svtperformance.com/threa...0rwhp.1181783/

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Old 12-18-2019, 05:21 PM   #5444
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Depending on the hardware and calibration, the extent of performance degradation in less favorable ambient conditions could certainly differ between two different cars/designs.

Similarly, regarding traction, there's many variables (suspension design, weight over driven wheels, weight transfer) that would result in cars to perform differently on less favorable surface conditions.

I suspect that what's he's talking about.
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Arent linear across all platforms is what he has been saying. As he explained some engines are more prone or effected by higher temperatures and cars like the Camaro SS have MASSIVE cooling where the Mustang GT doesnt. I am not sure what you arent following tbh.
Thank you guys. I know I was speaking English. I'm just not sure why they had this difficult of a time understanding something this simple.
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Lund racing 2020 gt500 mods: tune , octane boost , mid pipes and air box removed makes 786 rwhp. Pulley and e85 probably close to 900rwhp


https://www.svtperformance.com/threa...0rwhp.1181783/
Awesome. Maybe it'll run 11.1 now. LOL!!

I might be wrong but I thought Ford was locking the ECUs air tight. So I'm not sure how anyone could figure it out this fast...even Lund. I wonder if they are allowing him to tune it or if they are allowing their customers to purchase an unlock. Whatever the case, if they really are getting that much power from those little mods and it is safe and if it can be driven out of there and DD'd without issues then that is impressive. But I would like to see how long it lasts and if there are any drive-ability issues with it.
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Old 12-18-2019, 06:06 PM   #5445
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Thank you guys. I know I was speaking English. I'm just not sure why they had this difficult of a time understanding something this simple.

Awesome. Maybe it'll run 11.1 now. LOL!!

I might be wrong but I thought Ford was locking the ECUs air tight. So I'm not sure how anyone could figure it out this fast...even Lund. I wonder if they are allowing him to tune it or if they are allowing their customers to purchase an unlock. Whatever the case, if they really are getting that much power from those little mods and it is safe and if it can be driven out of there and DD'd without issues then that is impressive. But I would like to see how long it lasts and if there are any drive-ability issues with it.
Them unlocking it already does seem awfully fast. Unless it is very similar to the GT350.
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Old 12-18-2019, 11:44 PM   #5446
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