[RobbyBeefcake87]

Originally Posted by shaffe

Either way sloppy all around, round up is 4 not 5 and they said nothing about average lap times. Just bad form MT, bad form lol

Maybe they knew it'd give a lot of us on the forums something to speculate and debate knowing no one would check the whole article before furiously typing and assuming lol

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by SlitherByU

I have not heard that but if true then DAMN! I could see myself entertaining the thought of a 2020 R

I bet the chassis could handle the extra power very well. I wonder where the sweet spot is, not that it isnt pretty damn sweet already.

[whiteboyblues2001]

Originally Posted by SlitherByU

I have not heard that but if true then DAMN! I could see myself entertaining the thought of a 2020 R

That is incredibly unlikely. As HP is roughly RPMs X Torque(at that RPM), the only way you can add a large amount of HP to an N/A engine that is pretty much the same as the last generation, is to increase the displacement (gives more torque), or put the peak HP at a higher RPM.

If this were a turbo engine, then it would be easier to bump up the HP (by adjusting boost).

But for an N/A engine, they would have to bump up the displacement or peak HP RPMs. Neither of these are very likely for the Voodoo.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by RobbyBeefcake87

There's no but but buts from me, I gave the gt500 it's props on its awesome track times. The max effort gt500 beat the base c8 as it should have on a track by a little, however our resident nuthugger was getting a little ahead of himself as if it was some clean sweep forgetting the published acceleration numbers. Whether you and him like unprepped numbers or not, they're real and it didn't win that.

We have yet to see what it runs on track against the zle but we already know zle's have run faster than the gt500 at VIR Full, the gt500 cftp will be hard to beat and I fully acknowledge that. Regardless of what the attention grabbing article headline said about forgetting the camaro, that battle hasn't happened yet.

Btw did Randy actually say that or are people just assuming Randy said the second line of the article headline? Serious question.

You've always been reasonable and have given credit where it is due. That is more than I can say for myself. LOL!!

In newmoon's defense, he probably just skimmed over the info without seeing the results at the bottom of the page like I initially did. Plus there has been soo much shit talk here (99.99% from me) that I would fully expect his reaction. It's all entertaining and exciting and I guess we all get carried away. HAHA! I give him a pass for that.

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

You've always been reasonable and have given credit where it is due. That is more than I can say for myself. LOL!!

In newmoon's defense, he probably just skimmed over the info without seeing the results at the bottom of the page like I initially did. Plus there has been soo much shit talk here (99.99% from me) that I would fully expect his reaction. It's all entertaining and exciting and I guess we all get carried away. HAHA! I give him a pass for that.

I will second that. I talk shit too, too much sometimes as it does get the better of me LOL.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by whiteboyblues2001

That is incredibly unlikely. As HP is roughly RPMs X Torque(at that RPM), the only way you can add a large amount of HP to an N/A engine that is pretty much the same as the last generation, is to increase the displacement (gives more torque), or put the peak HP at a higher RPM.

If this were a turbo engine, then it would be easier to bump up the HP (by adjusting boost).

But for an N/A engine, they would have to bump up the displacement or peak HP RPMs. Neither of these are very likely for the Voodoo.

Also there is long-term driveability, durability, emissions, MPGs, and lots of other things to consider. Along with the costs of doing all this. I doubt they could raise the output of a NA engine that already has very high compression, a very free IM, aggressive tuning, etc by that much with only a $5K increase in price. It would be an expensive endeavor indeed. Plus the Voodoo as is already was cursed with issues.

[shaffe]

I agree with pretty much everyone above, I don't think they bumped the power on the voodoo

[NW-99SS]

Originally Posted by shaffe

I agree with pretty much everyone above, I don't think they bumped the power on the voodoo

Same - requires mechanical changes to cam profiles in order to achieve a power bump with the same displacement. So unless someone posts cam changes in the Voodoo, I call BS.

[Fraxum]

Originally Posted by ST1LE

I will second that. I talk shit too, too much sometimes as it does get the better of me LOL.

Best post of the day! LOL. Me too.

[RobbyBeefcake87]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

You've always been reasonable and have given credit where it is due. That is more than I can say for myself. LOL!!

In newmoon's defense, he probably just skimmed over the info without seeing the results at the bottom of the page like I initially did. Plus there has been soo much shit talk here (99.99% from me) that I would fully expect his reaction. It's all entertaining and exciting and I guess we all get carried away. HAHA! I give him a pass for that.

Right on, I like everything about this post lol

[shaffe]

It's been very civil in here for about a page in a half....chances it stays that way when i get back in the office tomorrow lol

[RobbyBeefcake87]

Originally Posted by NW-99SS

Same - requires mechanical changes to cam profiles in order to achieve a power bump with the same displacement. So unless someone posts cam changes in the Voodoo, I call BS.

Published quartermile times for the 2019 gt350s from recent tests have been 12.3-12.5, or almost exactly the same as before. If anything the better tires might give it an advantage over the 2016-18s but the numbers are the same except maybe motortrend 12.3 might be a tenth quicker than their former 12.4s if I remember correctly (they could have gotten 12.3 before as well don't remember).

So don't go selling your 16-18s expecting a powe bump, maybe for the stronger and possibly more reliable predator based blocks, but power seems to be the same or at least nothing substantial.

I'm sure some people were convinced otherwise from motortrends gt350 dyno article about 2019s putting more down than previous gt350s. We all know about motortrends other dyno fail lol

[RobbyBeefcake87]

Originally Posted by shaffe

It's been very civil in here for about a page in a half....chances it stays that way when i get back in the office tomorrow lol

It was civil all weekend before the MT article came out lol

[whiteboyblues2001]

Originally Posted by RobbyBeefcake87

Published quartermile times for the 2019 gt350s from recent tests have been 12.3-12.5, or almost exactly the same as before. If anything the better tires might give it an advantage over the 2016-18s but the numbers are the same except maybe motortrend 12.3 might be a tenth quicker than their former 12.4s if I remember correctly (they could have gotten 12.3 before as well don't remember).

So don't go selling your 16-18s expecting a powe bump, maybe for the stronger and possibly more reliable predator based blocks, but power seems to be the same or at least nothing substantial.

I'm sure some people were convinced otherwise from motortrends gt350 dyno article about 2019s putting more down than previous gt350s. We all know about motortrends other dyno fail lol

Not to mention, any major change necessary to increase HP would need another certification for MPG and emissions. It would also likely get less MPGs as a result, which should be on the window sticker...