[RobbyBeefcake87]

Originally Posted by newmoon

Well that about wraps it up Base will handle a C8 on the strip or track, CF package will destroy the C8 on the track and Randy says Forget about the Camaro.

I guess the 500 is a complete failure

You're like the BW of mustang guys... it'll destroy the c8 z51 but do nothing to the more comparable c7 zr1.

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by newmoon

Well that about wraps it up Base will handle a C8 on the strip or track, CF package will destroy the C8 on the track and Randy says Forget about the Camaro.

I guess the 500 is a complete failure

LOL, you guys are just dying for a win aren't you?

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by RobbyBeefcake87

You're like the BW of mustang guys... it'll destroy the c8 z51 but do nothing to the more comparable c7 zr1.

to use a "mustang guy" excuse the ZR-1 is out of production hahaha

The ZR-1 is simply an amazing performance machine

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by ST1LE

LOL, you guys are just dying for a win aren't you?

I won't lie, when you had some guys so 100% sure it the CFTP version wouldn't be able to even hang with a C8 let alone a ZL1 and the first test shows the base version is faster and the CFTP even faster it does feel good lol.

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by shaffe

I won't lie, when you had some guys so 100% sure it the CFTP version wouldn't be able to even hang with a C8 let alone a ZL1 and the first test shows the base version is faster and the CFTP even faster it does feel good lol.

Yeah, but that is nonsense that should have never been entertained.

If I were a Mustang guy, I would hold my breath until the GT500 meets worthy competition. Comparing it to a base Vette, and then bragging about it is embarrassing. I know the mag did the comparo, but acting like that is something to brag about reeks of insecurity.

The 500 is plenty fast, and should beat faster cars than a base Vette. If you ask me, I would be worried about how close the 500 is to the base Vette around a track than brag it won by less than a full second. The S550 has been lagging behind until now, so I get it, just a little overzealous I think.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by unavailablezl1

From what I have read, the GT350 new 2019 and 2020 engine has more than the old 526. It has been bumped closer to 570 when run on the dyno. Ford just did not advertise.

I would think that since they raised the price by $5K they would advertise an extra 44 HP if they did squeeze more out of it. They advertised the 411 to 420 bump of the GT and then the 420 to 435 and then the 435 to 460. So why would they keep silent about this? It just seems a bit far fetched if you ask me.

Originally Posted by rocket403

When MT raced the Redeye they did on a prepped track and they were able to get 12.0 and an 11.8 with the car if that is the best that they could do with that car that is laughable, and those numbers should be treated the same way a hero lap would be. They way MT set up their race was unprofessional and that shows in the times

Cars does a great job of setting up a test of the Redeye and shows how a real test should be conducted and they were running low 11's and 10.86 a second faster than MT. MT is a joke if that is how they run their tests.

They test the cars in different ways tho. So you can't really criticize them. Plus who's to say if any of the myriad variables that are needed to run these spectacular track times were available? Just one thing off can alter the times drastically.

Originally Posted by RobbyBeefcake87

Interesting article but I don't know anyone who thought the c8 z51 would beat the gt500 carbon fiber track pack at a track. After all it beat the c7 z51 in that one C&D or MT comparison but it's not like it beat the GS or z06 at a track.

When they say it beat the street corvette I wonder if they're refering c8 z51 in general or the street aligment numbers. Probably the c8 in general but since they made a distinction between the street tune and track tune, makes me wonder.

They ran the Vette in street tune first. Then in track tune it was 2-3 seconds faster. However they did mention the "street 'Vette" in that statement which is a bit odd. Was it a typo? I wonder. Because the word "street" could be interpreted that it was in the street tune. In which case, did they handicap the Vette so the GT500 could win? LOL! Ok joke. Before people get all riled up. But the wording is off and needs clarification. Because if it was in street tune then the track tune will close the gap if not surpass.

Good eye for noticing that.

And I was rooting for the home team!! LOL! Even if the GT500 SHOULD win, my banner had the Vette on it!!

Originally Posted by ST1LE

ZLERacer posted these in another thread:

Laptimes in the video:
Gt500 1:59.68
C8 2:00.96

That is over a full second which means the Vette has no chance...if I'm to be fair and consistent. LOL! But which one put those numbers up? And it needs to be clarified about the setting they ran the Vette in.

[crysalis_01]

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"You have to win by a LOT, or it doesn't count." -Dominic Toretto
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[GossipSquirrelJelena]

Originally Posted by newmoon

Well that about wraps it up Base will handle a C8 on the strip or track, CF package will destroy the C8 on the track and Randy says Forget about the Camaro.

I guess the 500 is a complete failure

If your going to fail. Fail in spectacular fashion.

[ChefBorOzzy]

Why would anyone think this will walk a ZL1 after this comparison? Sure looks like a lot of straightaway on this track.

[RobbyBeefcake87]

Btw the article has all the numbers.

Gt500 cftp was faster in the 1/4 as some of us predicted on a street surface.

11.3 @131 vs 11.5 @129 for the non cftp version

The gt500 cftp ran 156.30 at VIR full

[TreedYou]

Originally Posted by RobbyBeefcake87

Totally agree, we argue numbers and stats when they're out and compare features, that's what car guys do. Sure we have favorites, and sometimes joke below the belt, but no one should be hoping a car fails or talking down it's capabilities.

It's a bit of a weird confusion with the gentleman as he's posted this...

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

I've been following this car since day one. On every FB group and page and forum where this car was discussed the general consensus was that the CF version would be faster.

So does he want the car or...? I don't understand.

[RobbyBeefcake87]

Originally Posted by GossipSquirrelJelena

If your going to fail. Fail in spectacular fashion.

Quatermile times according to motortrend.

C8 11.1
Gt500 11.5
Gt500 cftp 11.3

Spectacular failure.

[RobbyBeefcake87]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

I would think that since they raised the price by $5K they would advertise an extra 44 HP if they did squeeze more out of it. They advertised the 411 to 420 bump of the GT and then the 420 to 435 and then the 435 to 460. So why would they keep silent about this? It just seems a bit far fetched if you ask me.

They test the cars in different ways tho. So you can't really criticize them. Plus who's to say if any of the myriad variables that are needed to run these spectacular track times were available? Just one thing off can alter the times drastically.

They ran the Vette in street tune first. Then in track tune it was 2-3 seconds faster. However they did mention the "street 'Vette" in that statement which is a bit odd. Was it a typo? I wonder. Because the word "street" could be interpreted that it was in the street tune. In which case, did they handicap the Vette so the GT500 could win? LOL! Ok joke. Before people get all riled up. But the wording is off and needs clarification. Because if it was in street tune then the track tune will close the gap if not surpass.

Good eye for noticing that.

And I was rooting for the home team!! LOL! Even if the GT500 SHOULD win, my banner had the Vette on it!!

That is over a full second which means the Vette has no chance...if I'm to be fair and consistent. LOL! But which one put those numbers up? And it needs to be clarified about the setting they ran the Vette in.

I checked the article times at the bottom, they did use the track tune numbers. All figures are in there, you'll love the 1/4 times lol spoiler c8 won

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by shaffe

And according to the video that was the "base" GT500

The Base GT500 ran a comparable time to the C8 Z51. The CF is the one they say was faster.

Originally Posted by TreedYou

Just joined up, but I've read a lot of your posts and I just have to say.
No disrespect but I've never seen anyone so emotionally affected by another car. (almost obsessed which is weird if you don't like the car so much)

It sounds like you consistently have a problem with the $ aspect of it, if you can't afford it then who cares?

Save up till you can!

I can't afford one either but I am not going to cry about the price with thousands of words.
I am pretty sure that car will be sold out anyway so I guess other people are not having an issue affording it?

C8 is a solid as hell buy though! I'd rather be seen in that super car looking mofo than the squar-ish GT500 but you can't deny it's a performer.

Not sure what you're getting at...

Originally Posted by bradmo9

1,000 % agree never seen someone want a car to fail so bad.

I want all makes models to perform well makes it more exciting!!!

You must not watch sports. LOL!! I don't care if the GT500 fails or succeeds or whatever it does. But when it comes to it against the Bowties you can bet your ass I'll be rooting for GM.

Originally Posted by NW-99SS

Question - how does following the owner's manual and manufacturer recommendations for track settings give it a strike against?

Plenty of track star cars that are street legal require adjustments to make them track ready for optimum results.

In the same way, increasing air pressure to the fronts, decreasing air pressure to the rears, changing launch RPM, and added a ton of extra track prep after a long cool down is a tick against the GT500 10.6 pass. These are just the variables we know about, there could be more.

Truth!